Building a self steering wind vane

Oct 15, 2015
206
 For my winter project I intend on building a self steering wind vane. I have purchased Bill Belcher's book " How to plan and  make your own" but before I get started I wanted to ask the Vega group if anybody has tried this and what model do you feel is best suited for the Vega. I have never seen a wind vane in real life so I have limited knowledge. I have walked around both Seward and Homer boat harbors and nobody has one on their vessel. I have only seen pictures. As a side note, I would like at some point to install a outboard kicker bracket to the transom so the wind vane would have to operate with that installed. Any advice from experienced hands would be appreciated.
 

Gazuum

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Oct 23, 2010
67
Pearson P365K Port Angeles
These people made a trim tab system for their boat. A trim tab
is the way to go on an aft hung rudder. The AB would obviously be
more difficult.
The good thing about this site is the thoroughness and
documenting of their project and offers a lot of insight.
Probably the best way to go on an AB would be a second rudder on
the stern controlled by a trim tab.
This site with the aforementioned books will get you where you
want to go.
Gordon


On 9/8/2016 9:50 PM, n4lbl
alan.schulman@... [AlbinVega] wrote:
 
Aug 29, 2011
103
My vega came with a Monitor windvane system. It was easy to use, incredibly accurate and robust, and we used it all the time even on quite short passages. It was over-engineered for the Vega and would have been quite capable of steering a boat twice the size or more. The mounting was heavy and took up most of the transom. I briefly had a Rival 32 with a Windpilot Pacific, which took up far less space, and there was room beside it for a boarding ladder, so presumably also for your outboard bracket. Tom
 
Apr 12, 2016
102
I have no knowledge about windvanes, sorry ... but I sure would be interested in the install of that outboard kicker bracket. I'd be grateful if you'd keep your us posted on how that develops. I've been thinking about doing the same thing.
 
Dec 11, 2007
179
- - port st. lucie,fl.
On my first Vega in the mid 70's it came with a early model Hasler windvane. I used it extensively and was very pleased with the performance. The Hasler is a pretty basic unit,not too difficult to build a similar unit, but would not be as powerfull as the later models.
 

Gazuum

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Oct 23, 2010
67
Pearson P365K Port Angeles
As powerful as you want to build it if home built. Plus the
satisfaction of several thousand dollars still in your pocket and
the satisfaction of having done it yourself.

Duckworth mag has a lot of info on building naca rudders and
foils which will help if you go with a second rudder and trim tab.
The really nice thing about a trim tab is that a balanced naca
foil turns very easily but can control a large load like a rudder.
Made with positive feedback, this system will correct much faster
than a helmsman could.
An added benefit is your tiller pilot can be tied to the trim
tab meaning very little power required and little mechanical wear
with the obvious benefits.
Another benefit is no hodgepodge of lines and blocks in the
cockpit!

Gordon




On 9/9/2016 11:01 AM,
coe.richard@... [AlbinVega] wrote:
 
Feb 13, 2010
528
Hello, I just left Alaska a year ago. Did you buy your Vega up there? And do you plan sailing up there? Very curious. Someday, I want to sail up there, then to Kodiak.
 
Oct 15, 2015
206
Hi Gordon, I agree the second rudder with a trim-tab seems like the best choice. The servo-pendulum style is more modern and powerful but the sweeping pendulum motion really reduces transom space for things like outboard mounts and swim ladders. So I think I will try the second rudder with trim-tab. I like the redundancy of a spare rudder. I just wonder if anybody else has tried this style and how effective was it on all points of sail? I like the idea of the system being smallish and removable, or to at least swing upwards out of the water to reduce drag when not needed. It seems like the second rudder style are very large compared to the sleek servo pendulum.
 
Oct 15, 2015
206
Hi Craig, Yes, I purchased the Vega in Juneau and moved it over road on a trailer using truck and ferries. My idea for sailing is getting to know the boat in AK waters but going south as soon as I can cause its so freaking cold up here!
 

Gazuum

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Oct 23, 2010
67
Pearson P365K Port Angeles
Trim tab or pendulum. Both have their pros and cons. Trim tab
system lighter and less complicated but will stick out a ways.
Read and reread all the data available before your final
decision and design.
Gordon


On 9/9/2016 3:03 PM,
alaskaflyfish@... [AlbinVega] wrote:
 
Mar 21, 2015
28
Hi All, Interesting to read the comments on self steering systems. I don't have the time to build one myself so was looking at affordable self steering systems. I was wondering if any Vega owners had had experience of the Hebridean wind vane?
 
Oct 15, 2015
206
I looked at the Hebridean wind vane kit and was impressed on its simplicity. It seems that it would work as advertised and replacement parts would be easy to fabricate. It is a pendulum style wind vane so it is efficient and powerful. The down side is that it would dominate your transom with its sweeping motion and would leave little room for outboard motor brackets and boarding ladders etc.. unless modifications to the attach brackets could be made to extend further aft. At this time I am interested in the Aux Rudder w/ trim tab style. It takes up less room on the transom and can be used as a back-up rudder if needed. Lots to think about, there is no easy answer. The Hebridean is inexpensive compared to others and may be a good choice for that fact alone. Cheers. From: "dade_jeremy@... [AlbinVega]" AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Re: Building a self steering wind vane




Hi All, Interesting to read the comments on self steering systems. I don't have the time to build one myself so was looking at affordable self steering systems. I was wondering if any Vega owners had had experience of the Hebridean wind vane?






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