Bruce Hill Yachts
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I have had 2 boats listed
with them for a total of 5 years and I can count the times they have shown them on one hand. They have never sold anything for me, probably because my boat isn't located at their office. So, as a seller, I have had no good luck. Maybe they're better for a buyer????
with them for a total of 5 years and I can count the times they have shown them on one hand. They have never sold anything for me, probably because my boat isn't located at their office. So, as a seller, I have had no good luck. Maybe they're better for a buyer????
I've Bought and Sold with them
I bought a vessel in 1994 through Bruce himself and sold a vessel two years ago through an associate who no longer works there. I have nothing bad to say about either experience. When you buy a vessel in Vermont they try and get state sales tax from you. When I sold my Hunter 34 I sailed it to NY so the buyer (Canadian) could beat the tax (as they all do in this country it seems) They worked hard and negotiated to get my price. I think Jeff Hill, Bruce's son now runs the show. Paul must be new there and I've never heard of him. My overall impression is they price vessels way to high and it seems all vessels instantly become fresh water boats when they hit the lake there
I bought a vessel in 1994 through Bruce himself and sold a vessel two years ago through an associate who no longer works there. I have nothing bad to say about either experience. When you buy a vessel in Vermont they try and get state sales tax from you. When I sold my Hunter 34 I sailed it to NY so the buyer (Canadian) could beat the tax (as they all do in this country it seems) They worked hard and negotiated to get my price. I think Jeff Hill, Bruce's son now runs the show. Paul must be new there and I've never heard of him. My overall impression is they price vessels way to high and it seems all vessels instantly become fresh water boats when they hit the lake there
Purchased thru them
I purchased my 85 Hunter 31 thru them (8/05). Everything went very smooth. General impression was that as a listing broker they weren"t very aggresive, I did all the work as a buyer. If you are looking to list, try "Boats R Fun" at Willsboro Bay Marina(www.wbm.us) Michelle sold my O'Day 28 within 10 days of listing it.
I purchased my 85 Hunter 31 thru them (8/05). Everything went very smooth. General impression was that as a listing broker they weren"t very aggresive, I did all the work as a buyer. If you are looking to list, try "Boats R Fun" at Willsboro Bay Marina(www.wbm.us) Michelle sold my O'Day 28 within 10 days of listing it.
For your info Daryl, we don't try to beat the
tax, we just try to pay what is fair. I don't mean to hijack this thread, but need to set this matter straight. I have bought 2 boats in the US and my experience is that most States will not charge the State Tax if the boat is to be taken out-of-state after the sale. And most States will give you a 10-day grace period to move the boat out-of state. I sailed one from Willsboro Bay, NY (from Boats-R-fun), and cleared customs and paid Duty (nowadays, no more duty on US built boats), + Canadian GST tax, + Quebec Sales Tax on the Canadian Dollar value of the boat, all of which amounted then to about 25% of the Canadian Dollar value of the boat! I bought my current 34 at Tidewater Marina in MD, and was again given 10 days to get it of of state. I trucked it back to Canada, again paying the GST and Provincial Sales Tax on the Canadian value of the boat. You need a commercial invoice on which the tax is assessed. If no commercial invoice, then Canadian Customs goes to Buc's and generally assesses greatest value unless you have a recent survey signed by a professional surveyor. If VT charges tax whether the boat stays in VT or not, I am convince you would have done the same thing as your buyer. In fact, by sailing it out of VT yourself, you did!
tax, we just try to pay what is fair. I don't mean to hijack this thread, but need to set this matter straight. I have bought 2 boats in the US and my experience is that most States will not charge the State Tax if the boat is to be taken out-of-state after the sale. And most States will give you a 10-day grace period to move the boat out-of state. I sailed one from Willsboro Bay, NY (from Boats-R-fun), and cleared customs and paid Duty (nowadays, no more duty on US built boats), + Canadian GST tax, + Quebec Sales Tax on the Canadian Dollar value of the boat, all of which amounted then to about 25% of the Canadian Dollar value of the boat! I bought my current 34 at Tidewater Marina in MD, and was again given 10 days to get it of of state. I trucked it back to Canada, again paying the GST and Provincial Sales Tax on the Canadian value of the boat. You need a commercial invoice on which the tax is assessed. If no commercial invoice, then Canadian Customs goes to Buc's and generally assesses greatest value unless you have a recent survey signed by a professional surveyor. If VT charges tax whether the boat stays in VT or not, I am convince you would have done the same thing as your buyer. In fact, by sailing it out of VT yourself, you did!
Claude ....
Pehaps we should start another thread but it won't be pretty. Delivering my boat to NY was a condition of sale. The new owner sailed it right back to Malletts Bay the same day. No US tax, no Canadian tax, no state registration, just like the thousands of others out there. Eventually they got a Canadian document, name, and a flag without paying a dime. I was told if Canadians don't bring their vessel home they can document it, leave it outside Canada and never pay purchase, sales, use tax or registration. I'm glad you paid your fair share of taxes. I have found that most of my northern neighbors don't and they are the first to call the Coast Guard or State Police for problems on the lake. I rarely see any financial contribution to my community but plenty of enviromental problems result. Twenty years in a marina and I can't figure why they never need a pumpout?
Pehaps we should start another thread but it won't be pretty. Delivering my boat to NY was a condition of sale. The new owner sailed it right back to Malletts Bay the same day. No US tax, no Canadian tax, no state registration, just like the thousands of others out there. Eventually they got a Canadian document, name, and a flag without paying a dime. I was told if Canadians don't bring their vessel home they can document it, leave it outside Canada and never pay purchase, sales, use tax or registration. I'm glad you paid your fair share of taxes. I have found that most of my northern neighbors don't and they are the first to call the Coast Guard or State Police for problems on the lake. I rarely see any financial contribution to my community but plenty of enviromental problems result. Twenty years in a marina and I can't figure why they never need a pumpout?
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