Broad reach on O'Day 25

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kettu7

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Jun 3, 2012
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Oday 25 Jersey City
We acquired a 1982 O'Day 25 this year (our first sailboat, hooray!) and started sailing her recently. She's a centerboard model with a 110 genoa. I seem to be having an unusual problem sailing her on broad reach. I learned sailing on J-24's and I am sheeting in the genoa exactly the same way on my O'Day, however I just can't get the genoa to fill with wind on broad reach and telltales are never aligned with each other. On J-24's we would easily be able to maintain the 45 degree course from the run, but here I can barely fall down some 15 degrees from beam reach and that's it, after that I can't control the genoa anymore: ease it out a bit more and it starts twisting around the forestay, sheet it in a bit more and it starts luffing. Having said that, close haul, close reach and beam reach are all working fine for us, but we just can't get a handle of sailing her on broad reach. I seem to be missing something simple, but I can't quite understand what exactly. Is there anything unusual about this particular model that I need to consider? Any advice is much appreciated ahead of our next sail this Monday! :)
 

geehaw

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May 15, 2010
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O-day 25 shoal keel Valdez
Mine seems to do the same thing. New to sailing so thought this was normal. I used a whisker pole with good success.
 

Erieau

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Apr 3, 2009
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Oday 25 Erieau
Mine seems to do the same thing. New to sailing so thought this was normal. I used a whisker pole with good success.
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Anything deeper than 20 degrees off beam reach, I call for "Whiskey", our pole.
 
Oct 26, 2005
2,057
- - Satellite Beach, FL.
Have to tried changing your sheeting angle? Maybe move the genoa blocks forward?
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,050
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
As you've found an O'Day 25 is a different boat than a J24. :eek:

All boats, once dropped to a broad reach, will have a certain point where the main blocks the jib. Seems that's what's happening to you. Either sail a little deeper (or sail by the lee) and go w-on-w, or use a pole.

...ease it out a bit more and it starts twisting around the forestay, sheet it in a bit more and it starts luffing.

Confused here? sheet it in and starts luffing? Seems counter-intuitive to me, sheeting in shouldn't make it luff.
 
Jan 24, 2005
4,881
Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
A close friend of mine in the club gave me a Forespar pole with the spike on one end and I love it. I should have bought a whisker pole years ago.
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
I think Merlin called it. With a small genoa or a jib, the top of the sail will twist WAY off when reaching and the clew is let out. To counteract this, you need to move the lead forward to get more downward pressure on the leech. Moving it outward (to a block on the toerail) helps as well.

On our first 260 with a non-overlapping 105 headsail, the tracks end directly under the clew, and we often have the car placed almost there when reaching. Little or no pressure is needed on the foot or the sail, which is lightly loaded.

You mentioned learning on a J24, IIRC a j24 does not have adjustable leads!
 
Jun 2, 2004
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Oday Day Sailer Wareham, MA
The 110% Jib is the standard-size "working" jib on an O'DAY 25, are you using the fixed jib sheet blocks on hte side decks (about 3' forward of cockpit)? or are you using the genoa blocks on hte tracks further aft? You should use the forward "working jib" lead blocks for the 110. That might help?
 
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