Bow seat on Passage 42

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BBC16385

BBC16385

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Sep 14, 2004
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Hunter 42 Deltaville VA
I have a 1997 P 42 with the Starboard bow seat with the teak strips screwed on from the bottom side. My problem is the screws are not holding the teak strips on well anymore. I have tried larger screws, plastic wood filler and expoxy filler all to get the screws to bite into the back side of the teak. Nothing is working.

I am thinking of buying a large piece of teak and cutting it into the shape of the seat to replace the Starboard/teak combo seat.

Does anyone else have experience with this issue and the fix?
 
Bill Murray

Bill Murray

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Jun 2, 2004
241
Hunter 410 Charlevoix, MI
I replaced all the teak strips with Plasteak which comes in stock sizes almost the exact size of the original. It looks great and no more teak maintenance :--)

If you insist on re-screwing the original try putting an epoxy paste in each screw hole and tighten lightly until epoxy sets up.
 
BBC16385

BBC16385

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Sep 14, 2004
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Hunter 42 Deltaville VA
But you did have to cut the Plasteak into the shapes of the old teak, correct? That strikes me a pretty difficult. Any chance you could take a picture of the seat for me?
 
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Paul Cossman

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Jul 25, 2004
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Hunter 42 currently in New Zealand
BBC30 said:
I have a 1997 P 42 with the Starboard bow seat with the teak strips screwed on from the bottom side. My problem is the screws are not holding the teak strips on well anymore. I have tried larger screws, plastic wood filler and expoxy filler all to get the screws to bite into the back side of the teak. Nothing is working.

I am thinking of buying a large piece of teak and cutting it into the shape of the seat to replace the Starboard/teak combo seat.

Does anyone else have experience with this issue and the fix?
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BBC,
My P42 is six years older than yours, and I have had the same problem. Repeatedly. Many times. Some of the screw holes get stripped and I enlarged the screws as well. Also tried 4200 and 5200. The teak strips have bowed, which exacerbates the problem. My last fix, a little over a year ago, was to use a tube of Liquid Nails as the bedding compound. So far it's working great, and has easily outperformed the 5200 for adhesive quality up there. It surprises me, since I would have expected 5200 to perform better in what is almost an underwater environment up there, but there it is. Good luck.
 
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artboas

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Jun 1, 2009
1,852
Hunter 49 toronto
I have the answer

Paul Cossman said:
BBC,
My P42 is six years older than yours, and I have had the same problem. Repeatedly. Many times. Some of the screw holes get stripped and I enlarged the screws as well. Also tried 4200 and 5200. The teak strips have bowed, which exacerbates the problem. My last fix, a little over a year ago, was to use a tube of Liquid Nails as the bedding compound. So far it's working great, and has easily outperformed the 5200 for adhesive quality up there. It surprises me, since I would have expected 5200 to perform better in what is almost an underwater environment up there, but there it is. Good luck.
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You can get these wonderful things called "barbserts"
Basically what consist of are brass ferrules that have a coarse wood cutting thread on the outer perimeter, and a machine screw thread on the inner diameter.
So, you drill the reccomended size into the teak, screw in the insert, and then have a perfect machine screw thread that you can install & remove the strips from now to eternity.
These barbserts are available in brass, stainless, and (don't get these), regular carbon steel.
My recommendation is to go with an internal thread of 10-24, as that screw will fit perfectly with the previously stripped out wood.
I then reccomended using these as well into the starboard, so that you can removed the starboard seats from the railing, and replace as many times as you wish.
Once you start to use barbserts on your boat, you'll find a million uses for them.
Be sure to get the type that screw in, and not press in. The press in types are designed for thermoplastic assemblies, and aren't suitable for wood.

You are going to be thrilled with this solutuon
 
CoolChange91-42passage

CoolChange91-42passage

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Oct 29, 2009
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Hunter 42 Passage Daytona Beach
artboas said:
You can get these wonderful things called "barbserts" Basically what consist of are brass ferrules that have a coarse wood cutting thread on the outer perimeter, and a machine screw thread on the inner diameter. So, you drill the reccomended size into the teak, screw in the insert, and then have a perfect machine screw thread that you can install & remove the strips from now to eternity. These barbserts are available in brass, stainless, and (don't get these), regular carbon steel. My recommendation is to go with an internal thread of 10-24, as that screw will fit perfectly with the previously stripped out wood. I then reccomended using these as well into the starboard, so that you can removed the starboard seats from the railing, and replace as many times as you wish. Once you start to use barbserts on your boat, you'll find a million uses for them. Be sure to get the type that screw in, and not press in. The press in types are designed for thermoplastic assemblies, and aren't suitable for wood. You are going to be thrilled with this solutuon
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Solved my problem with the teak strips, the sun had killed them anyway. Cut a new piece of marine board and mounted my remote controlled GOLIGHT on top of it. Perfect, no blow back from the light and can see everything out front. Problem solved. Haven't figured out what to put on the step over the electrical inlets yet, maybe I'll get the fake stuff, sounds like a good option. Great day in Daytona, water smooth as glass in the marina, wind will be up later.
 
Rick D

Rick D

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Jun 14, 2008
7,188
Hunter Legend 40.5 Shoreline Marina Long Beach CA
Cool... Where Did You Get Them???

artboas said:
You can get these wonderful things called "barbserts"
Basically what consist of are brass ferrules that have a coarse wood cutting thread on the outer perimeter, and a machine screw thread on the inner diameter.
So, you drill the reccomended size into the teak, screw in the insert, and then have a perfect machine screw thread that you can install & remove the strips from now to eternity.
These barbserts are available in brass, stainless, and (don't get these), regular carbon steel.
My recommendation is to go with an internal thread of 10-24, as that screw will fit perfectly with the previously stripped out wood.
I then reccomended using these as well into the starboard, so that you can removed the starboard seats from the railing, and replace as many times as you wish.
Once you start to use barbserts on your boat, you'll find a million uses for them.
Be sure to get the type that screw in, and not press in. The press in types are designed for thermoplastic assemblies, and aren't suitable for wood.

You are going to be thrilled with this solutuon
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Art: where did you get 'em? I checked McMaster & Google and couldn't find the externally threaded kind, only press-in mild steel.
 
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davjonLegend

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Jun 14, 2011
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Hunter 37.5 Legend 1993 TX
While the teak strips are pretty, they aren't especially useful. Years ago our bow set was ripped off as we plunged through wave after wave. I made a replacement seat with Starboard and decided to keep things simple by not adding teak strips. Been happy with that ever since.
 
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