Im redoing the bottom paint on a oday 25 any suggestions on what type of bottem paint I should use. This is the first time I repaint a boat.
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I have a 25, and used Petit Hydrocoat last year - great stuff. Took the old paint all off, sanded with a palm sander and 80 grit to give it some "tooth", then put a blue base coat on, with 4 coats of green over that. Looks great, wears well, smells good going on, and cleanup is easy - soap and water! Is slightly drippy, so use a drop cloth.
I have a 25, and used Petit Hydrocoat last year - great stuff. Took the old paint all off, sanded with a palm sander and 80 grit to give it some "tooth", then put a blue base coat on, with 4 coats of green over that. Looks great, wears well, smells good going on, and cleanup is easy - soap and water! Is slightly drippy, so use a drop cloth.
I'm about to do a much-needed bottom job on my 23'. I plan on trailering quite a bit, so need an abalative paint instead of hybrid epoxy. Can anyone speak to the difference between Pettit Hydrocoat and Pettit Ultima Pro? (Why does WestMarine say it is for commercial/professional use only?) I know that one is water-based and the other is solvent based, so care is needed, but just wonder if Ultima Pro can be rolled on (or must be sprayed)???
If I was leaving it on a trailer and putting it in the water only when I sail, I would use VC-17. It is a great paint for trailering a boat and is slick for better performance. It has been one of the most popular hard bottom paints for a long time for a reason.
If I was going to keep it in the water, it depends on your waters. Is there a fast growth rate or slow? Pettit has a great line of antifouling paints that are reasonabling priced.
How long have you owned the boat? The mast on my Oday 25 convinced me to leave it in the water. Yes it is easy enough to raise and lower it with a gin pole, but after awhile I just wanted a mast on a trailer boat that did not need a gin pole to go up and down on a trailer. I loved my Oday, but the mast was just slightly heavy enough to where I did not want to load and unload it every time I wanted to sail. Keeping it in the water made more sense for me.
If I was going to keep it in the water, it depends on your waters. Is there a fast growth rate or slow? Pettit has a great line of antifouling paints that are reasonabling priced.
How long have you owned the boat? The mast on my Oday 25 convinced me to leave it in the water. Yes it is easy enough to raise and lower it with a gin pole, but after awhile I just wanted a mast on a trailer boat that did not need a gin pole to go up and down on a trailer. I loved my Oday, but the mast was just slightly heavy enough to where I did not want to load and unload it every time I wanted to sail. Keeping it in the water made more sense for me.
Need to do the same with my 23 ft. How would you remove the paint and how long should I plan keeping the boat out of water? Does painting involve only the bottom or the entire boat (deck as well)? Thanks.
Herco,
If you're going to leave your boat in saltwater longer than a week, you should use a bottom paint. The rest of the boat is Gelcoat and you shouldn't have to do anything but wax and polish it.
Does your boat have bottom paint on it right now?
I've been painting my hull with Super Shipbottom Ablative paint. It's manufactured in Fort myers FL. by a guy named Ed Donlin.
This paint has it's own primer built right into it and it contains 62.5% copper. It can be painted over bare fiberglass and most bottom paints. You only need one coat.
http://www.supershipbottom.com/PAINT SPECS.htm
I just painted my centerboard and keel yesterday and today I'm going to paint the rest of the bottom.
If you're into DIY you need the right equipment like the canister type respirator, paint roller on the end of the stick plus some cheap throw away brushes. Probably the hardest job is gaining access to the hull and keel to paint it. Yesterday, I had blocks under the bow and stern supporting the boat with the keel about 25" off the ground. I dug a 15" hole under the keel to let my my centerboard all the way down.
The stuff dries fast and toward the middle of the afternoon I was able to fill in the hole and shore up under the keel to remove the bow and stern shoring blocks. There's a little work involved and some danger that goes with it when your dealing with the weight of a boat, but I plan it all out and the work usually goes pretty well for me.
I should have her back on the trailer by the end of the week if all goes as planned. I want to get the mast up next week and check my new mast extrusion to make sure my stays will come right. I added an extra 1/8" to the bottom of my mast a couple of weeks ago. It shouldn't make too much of a difference to my turnbuckle adjustments,--I hope.
Joe
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Trinkka thanks for the tip on Super Shipbottom. Sounds like what I'm looking for. A "harder" abalative paint (oxymoron?) with high copper content that can be trailered, but would last well in the water. Since it is manufactured in Florida, I guess it would work well in Tampa.
I'm skeptical about the 3 season claim. How long does it last for you?
How much paint did yours take, and how much did you pay?
I'm skeptical about the 3 season claim. How long does it last for you?
How much paint did yours take, and how much did you pay?
I really like this paint and a few of our club members have been using it longer than I have, and they like it also.
Whereas you live in FL., you'll probably be able to get it at a cheaper price. I can get about two seasons out of this paint. I just painted the hull plus the centerboard last week and I had about a 1/4 of a gallon left over in the can.
Next year I'll just spot paint the hull where ever it is needed and the following year I repaint the whole thing again. I buy this paint about every other year.
If your boat has a nice smooth hull, I believe that this paint will go on a lot better and faster with less paint being wasted.
If your boat has never been bottom painted, you need to remove the boat mold wax with acetone in order for the paint to stick even though your boat is old, the mold release wax is still present.
Ed's wife Marion charged me $139.00 for the gallon of blue ablative SSB paint, plus $26.00 shipping costs through the post office to MA where I live in Taunton.
Thanks Trinkka, Just placed my order today: $139 plus $12 S&H. My boat is a 1980, so it has layers of bottom paint. Plan to give it a good sanding with 80grit, then 120 and grind/fill any blisters with marine-tex. Happy sailing!
Try to get the hull as smooth as possible. The paint will roll on a lot better and cover the area without having to go back and catch the places you missed.
You may be able to buy one of those long board sanders that Ed K. mentioned in his thread, for cheap money a Harbor Freight.
Good luck!
Joe
You may be able to buy one of those long board sanders that Ed K. mentioned in his thread, for cheap money a Harbor Freight.
Good luck!
Joe
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