Could you please tell about a good experience of sharing a sailboat or any advice, how to get into it.
Boat sharing experience
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No such thing. Don't do it. Rent/charter. If you must, buy, buy a smaller boat you can afford to support yourself.
being in a partnership on a boat would be worse than being married to Three wives at the same time......
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woody
I love sailing, but do not have much time for it, 5-6 weekends a year. I have a trailerable H240, and it meets my needs right now. I'm thinking about other options owning a boat, will definitely keep my Hunter though. Just want to find some people who will share there positive experience.
why dont you look at one of the fractional programs, sailtime has a base in chicago, they have bigger hunters and the owner is a good guy. check them out
mike
mike
You are welcome to come with me. I'm based in the Michigan City marina -quick trip from Chicagoland. 
Thanks for the invitation, but I mean positive experience buying and sharing a boatYou are welcome to come with me. I'm based in the Michigan City marina -quick trip from Chicagoland.
I'd save your money until times change and you can buy and use a boat enough to justify it.
For now, tow your Hunter to new areas and sail there. We towed our H26 to the waters behind 4 large dams and saw new landscapes each time. The beauty of this is that the land behind these dams is National Park Service land and therefore there is no development. You can beach, anchor or camp anywhere legally.
Ray
For now, tow your Hunter to new areas and sail there. We towed our H26 to the waters behind 4 large dams and saw new landscapes each time. The beauty of this is that the land behind these dams is National Park Service land and therefore there is no development. You can beach, anchor or camp anywhere legally.
Ray
Hi Ray, what area you are talking about, it sounds really great? I was sailing only in Chicago area and Door county mostly
I owned my first sailboat with my pal.
Three years in he & his wife wanted a larger boat.
My experience was positive, HOWEVER, this is NOT the NORM.
Two captains/owners are like sugar & salt, the taste is USUALLY bad.
If costs are a factor, then you need a PLAN-B.
A boat you can afford, or a club to join for a while.
Or,
Spend time sailing as first mate on other boats. Discuss problems/upkeep/maintenance/insurance/slip rent/upgrades..........the list goes on & on.
If any of these are out of your budget, then this may not be the right time, depending on a size you want.
If just starting out, the guys here have given great advice so, club ownership may be a good starting point. I know of many that tried your path & it ended up ruining friendships & even worse, went legal.
Just my personal opinion pal...
CR
Three years in he & his wife wanted a larger boat.
My experience was positive, HOWEVER, this is NOT the NORM.
Two captains/owners are like sugar & salt, the taste is USUALLY bad.
If costs are a factor, then you need a PLAN-B.
A boat you can afford, or a club to join for a while.
Or,
Spend time sailing as first mate on other boats. Discuss problems/upkeep/maintenance/insurance/slip rent/upgrades..........the list goes on & on.
If any of these are out of your budget, then this may not be the right time, depending on a size you want.
If just starting out, the guys here have given great advice so, club ownership may be a good starting point. I know of many that tried your path & it ended up ruining friendships & even worse, went legal.
Just my personal opinion pal...
CR
My advise would be not to share a boat with a friend, at least not a big ( in water) boat.... Because you'll risk loosing a friendship. Personal experience was a bad one, except that it helped us decide to get our own and what we wanted.
I think the offer you got to sail on another boat is a fantastic one.... Win/ win ... You sail, meet new friend, no added expense, learn more, all the fun and none of the drama! Think About it before blowing that offer off.
I think the offer you got to sail on another boat is a fantastic one.... Win/ win ... You sail, meet new friend, no added expense, learn more, all the fun and none of the drama! Think About it before blowing that offer off.
Well, contrary to the other experiences reported here I had a very good experience in two boat partnerships. In a similar situation to yours in Racine, WI where sailing is good for six months a year. First our families were friends and we bought the boat together an old but fairly fast W D Shock 26 for little money. We shared 50/50. Then bad storm on Mothers Day took out all the boats in the harbor. Later that year in the fall we took on another friend and had three partners in an Ericson 27. Same three way split on cost. We went out every Wed. night after work and as we liked on the weekend. Totally wonderful time. I moved out of state and we sold the boat.
We had a 'timeshare' with Pinnacle Yachts in Chicago during the 2011 sailing season. (The have locations in Annapolis, and Miami as well, I think.) The boat was a 2006 Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 40 berthed in Belmont Harbor. It was a terrific experience given our situation. It worked so well for us because our schedules are very flexible - sailing on weekdays is as convenient as sailing on weekends. If I were living in Chicago now, I would definitely go with Pinnacle again: they keep the boat in top condition, their on-line scheduling system is fair and easy to use, and the cost was very reasonable. Our share gave us 27 sailing times (either 9:00 am - 5:00 pm or 5:00 pm - 9:00 am) during the season for about $7500 - and that's a bargain; the slip alone would cost over $5500 for six months. With haul out, storage, and routine maintenance and repairs, it's like paying the ongoing costs of sailing but getting a free boat!
"Sharing" a sailboat - say by a partnership - is a different thing entirely. In a timeshare the expensive decisions and the dirty work are handled by the organization, e.g., Pinnacle or Sailtime. (Example: we noticed a small tear in the jib. We reported it to Pinnacle; when we returned for our next sailing session there was a new, crisp jib in place.) When sharing, all that falls to the partners and differences in preferences and resources can mean unhappy sailors.
I'm imagine there are successful partnerships, both equity and non-equity. I see ads on Craigslist often. But two things give me pause. First, if a share is available it's because a partner is leaving. Is that because of ordinary circumstances or are the other partners difficult to deal with? (The partnership I want to be in is the one in which everyone is happy and no one leaves!). Second, the ads from individuals wanting to share their sailboats make me wonder if the underlying reason is financial distress. I wouldn't want to partner with someone who struggles to pay his slip fees or maintain her boat. And so,if the people who can comfortably afford the total cost of sailboat ownership aren't likely to be looking for partners, who is running those ads?
Kinda like buying a used car: the owners keep driving the ones in good condition; the one's on the market are the lemons.
"Sharing" a sailboat - say by a partnership - is a different thing entirely. In a timeshare the expensive decisions and the dirty work are handled by the organization, e.g., Pinnacle or Sailtime. (Example: we noticed a small tear in the jib. We reported it to Pinnacle; when we returned for our next sailing session there was a new, crisp jib in place.) When sharing, all that falls to the partners and differences in preferences and resources can mean unhappy sailors.
I'm imagine there are successful partnerships, both equity and non-equity. I see ads on Craigslist often. But two things give me pause. First, if a share is available it's because a partner is leaving. Is that because of ordinary circumstances or are the other partners difficult to deal with? (The partnership I want to be in is the one in which everyone is happy and no one leaves!). Second, the ads from individuals wanting to share their sailboats make me wonder if the underlying reason is financial distress. I wouldn't want to partner with someone who struggles to pay his slip fees or maintain her boat. And so,if the people who can comfortably afford the total cost of sailboat ownership aren't likely to be looking for partners, who is running those ads?
Kinda like buying a used car: the owners keep driving the ones in good condition; the one's on the market are the lemons.
Roger, and if (while you are looking) you wish to try sailing on a diff boat in a diff area) let me know. I'm largely off in the summer (education).
Thanks for the invitation, but I mean positive experience buying and sharing a boat
I understand why most folks are fairly against boat owning partnerships.
That said, my boat partner and I have owned our T27 for over 10 years now. We have not agreed about everything but overall it has worked well for both of us as neither of us really want to bear the full cost of ownership alone.
We do share the expenses 50/50 and do all the maintenance work on her ourselves. In many ways it is nice to have a partner who has different skills than my own. My partner is great with electrical systems so I do not have to do any of that and I am happy enough to do the bottom each year by myself.
We enjoy sailing together and have been racing for a few years so when we race together our default crew size is 2 which is just enough to get by if we can't get one or two more crew to help out.
That said, my boat partner and I have owned our T27 for over 10 years now. We have not agreed about everything but overall it has worked well for both of us as neither of us really want to bear the full cost of ownership alone.
We do share the expenses 50/50 and do all the maintenance work on her ourselves. In many ways it is nice to have a partner who has different skills than my own. My partner is great with electrical systems so I do not have to do any of that and I am happy enough to do the bottom each year by myself.
We enjoy sailing together and have been racing for a few years so when we race together our default crew size is 2 which is just enough to get by if we can't get one or two more crew to help out.
Audriuskanape, We are out west in Washington State and I sail on the lake behind Grand Coulee Dam. It is called Lake Roosevelt. Behind federal dams are lakes simular to ours. They are anywhere from 50 to 150 miles long and vary in width from 1/2 to 3 or more miles wide. There is what is called "full pool" which is the water elevation when the dam pool is full. Then there is an elevation above that where no building or development iis allowed. Our full pool is 1290' and our upper line is 1320'. You can boat camp or anchor below these lines without charge. There are launch sites about every 15 miles and campgrounds about every 40 miles.
I do not know what you have where you live but I'm sure there are dams in your area and the same conditions probably exist. We try to tow to another dam for 7 to 10 days each year and spend probably another 15 or more nights a years on Roosevelt.
Hope this helps.
Ray
I do not know what you have where you live but I'm sure there are dams in your area and the same conditions probably exist. We try to tow to another dam for 7 to 10 days each year and spend probably another 15 or more nights a years on Roosevelt.
Hope this helps.
Ray
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