I saw a short, not much info story in Baltimore Sun this am about a sailboat capsized on Saturday, 2 rescued , 1 lost. Can anyone elaborate, have accurate knowledge? Dave
Boat capsized, one lost
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http://www.hometownannapolis.com/news/top/2011/12/18-44/Deadly-day-on-the-bay.html
TPLM2 was more like 16-18 knots (not mph) at 3PM, winds out of the WNW, air low 40s (but with wind chill, much less), and water low 40s (so about 30 min. in water max before blacking out). Not a good place to be with a Precision 18, IMHO....
TPLM2 was more like 16-18 knots (not mph) at 3PM, winds out of the WNW, air low 40s (but with wind chill, much less), and water low 40s (so about 30 min. in water max before blacking out). Not a good place to be with a Precision 18, IMHO....
Sad Situation, all around
http://precisionboatworks.com/boats/p18/index.html
Per this builder site, that model boat is self-righting. I wonder what the reporter may have meant by "capsize"?
To me, this states that the boat inverted, but from the design description, this seems very unlikely.
Some more facts about the accident would be useful, to better understand what happened to those folks.
Sidebar, there is an excellent video available about how quickly even a fit young person is incapacitated by sudden immersion in cold water. I do not have the link handy, but our program chair brought to a club meeting last year.
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http://precisionboatworks.com/boats/p18/index.html
Per this builder site, that model boat is self-righting. I wonder what the reporter may have meant by "capsize"?
To me, this states that the boat inverted, but from the design description, this seems very unlikely.
Some more facts about the accident would be useful, to better understand what happened to those folks.
Sidebar, there is an excellent video available about how quickly even a fit young person is incapacitated by sudden immersion in cold water. I do not have the link handy, but our program chair brought to a club meeting last year.
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On p18`s the starboard cockpit locker is a large hinged hatch that opens into the cabin area under the cockpit seat. Many boats (mine included) have closed off the hatch opening under the hinged lid. If the boat flips to starboard, that seat could fall open, interior could quickly flood.
TPLM2 = Thomas Point Light
TPLM2 is Thomas Point Light
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=TPLM2
TPLM2 is Thomas Point Light
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=TPLM2
I was out on a power boat yesterday, and sailing last weekend. It's sobering to know that others lost their lives for doing about the same thing.
We don't know, yet, what happened. Stay parted? Keel dropped off? Gust of wind caused swamping? So many things can go wrong. We do know that if you go in the cold water, with or without life jackets, you are in serious trouble.
Yet, there are frostbite fleets who have a safe history. Maybe their success is in having support boats to pluck swampee's out of the water in fractions of minutes instead of fractions of hours - or worse.
I love off season sailing for many reasons. The harsh angle of the sun, the clarity of the water, the different wildlife around, the lack of power boaters and their slop to sail in, the clear air and the fun of going out when others are cowering in their abodes.
But it's a bit scary because an incident that in the summer would mean a nice swim could cost your life.
I'm not going to give up off season sailing. But another boat or two out there with us would be some comfort.
I'm really sorry for the people lost and their loved ones. I hope not to join their ranks. But, I don't want to be restricted out of those beautiful winter water excursions.
We don't know, yet, what happened. Stay parted? Keel dropped off? Gust of wind caused swamping? So many things can go wrong. We do know that if you go in the cold water, with or without life jackets, you are in serious trouble.
Yet, there are frostbite fleets who have a safe history. Maybe their success is in having support boats to pluck swampee's out of the water in fractions of minutes instead of fractions of hours - or worse.
I love off season sailing for many reasons. The harsh angle of the sun, the clarity of the water, the different wildlife around, the lack of power boaters and their slop to sail in, the clear air and the fun of going out when others are cowering in their abodes.
But it's a bit scary because an incident that in the summer would mean a nice swim could cost your life.
I'm not going to give up off season sailing. But another boat or two out there with us would be some comfort.
I'm really sorry for the people lost and their loved ones. I hope not to join their ranks. But, I don't want to be restricted out of those beautiful winter water excursions.
There were some pretty sharp gusts to 20 knots.
I was sailing just south of there, near Deale. There was a small craft advisory posted.
When I sailed my beach cat I always told people to dress for a swim. I've sailed in a P18, and on a rough day with cold water, propper dress is a tough call. I think I'd wear a drysuit.
I was sailing just south of there, near Deale. There was a small craft advisory posted.
When I sailed my beach cat I always told people to dress for a swim. I've sailed in a P18, and on a rough day with cold water, propper dress is a tough call. I think I'd wear a drysuit.
DAVA390, would you consider that there is a reasonable risk of capsize or broach in a Precision 18 during the winter with breezy conditions? Yes, frostbite racers sail small boats in the winter, but they sail them wearing dry suits or heavy wet suits (and chase boats). Thrill seeking is one thing when preparations are made ... thrill seeking without knowing the risks and making appropriate preparations is another thing altogether. I get the feeling that the sailors didn't consider that there is a risk of capsizing their small boat.
One forty year old died later in the hospital. Correct me if I am wrong here but aren't you required to wear a wet suit, from October through April, when sailing in Maryland during the winter.
"Required" as compared to "Man, it sure would be a good idea," or "that's what mom says I should wear?"
Scott , I think yes, "reasonable risk" . Although I`ve never been ouit in winter or storm situation, I learned quickly summer before last to always (ok, mostly always) keep the mainsheet in hand. This is mainly because the Admiral still fears healing, although this summer she was much better than last. Last summer was our first season sailing.
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