Blisters!

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May 23, 2004
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I'm in the market as were . Colonial Beach
I am just wondering what everyone's experience is in dealing with blisters on a boat. Are they a big deal or are they a minor thing? How do you fix them? Has anyone had a peel done to their boat for the blisters? How much will that run for a boat around 30 feet?
 

RichH

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Feb 14, 2005
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Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
Blisters are mostly expensive 'hype'

go to www.yachtsurvey.com then go to the sidebar and go through the various 'blister' topics. This website is from a quite reknown surveyor who has written a prolific amount on 'blisters' including much about the catastrophic effects of poorly done DIY repair. http://www.yachtsurvey.com/blisters.htm
 
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Don

blisters

From what I read on the site the prior commentor references, it sounds like the answer is "it Depends". Shallow blisters, if not too numerous, are just a labor issue; core problems can be catastrophic. With all the unknowns you descried on your other post regarding the engine, hull, etc., this is, as the prior prospective owner found, a walk-away. It sounds like you are trying to justify a difficult purchase - if it's that difficult to rationalize and decide, why try so hard? A hull peel can cost thousands if done correctly.
 
Aug 9, 2005
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Hunter 28.5 Palm Coast, FL
Are we talking a few bunps?

Or a full blown case of chicken pox? The general rule of thumb is if they are soft, open them up anf let them drain until they dry, then repair them with the west sysyem. And if they are hard leave them alone. A full blown peel job on a 30 ft boat will run you 5 or 6 grand done right. Even done right will be no guarrantee that you might not be faced with them again down the road. If they aren't too bad fix a few every year you haul out. I've even repaired a few with marine tex. Good luck
 
Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
How much money do you have?

I would have to agree about blisters. Depending on the extent and size may determine what route you would like to persue. If you only have a few, it is just as easy to open them up, flush with fresh water and let them dry. When you open them up BE SURE to wear eye protection. Blister usually contain an mild acid. Bondo makes a polyester filler that is made for this purpose and is very effective. Once that is complete, you may want to seal it with a epoxy barrier for the area that you are repairing. Then just paint the bottom as normal. If you have "the pox" then you may be looking at the peel job. I do not think that $7000 would be out of line for a complete peel, fill, seal & paint job.
 
Nov 23, 2004
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Columbia 8.7 Super wide body Deltaville(Richmond)VA
More sources of information

While there is no doubt that the author is well informed,keep in mind that the material referenced is 7 years out of date. For better insight, one would be advised to visit the West System website, the information being updated on an ongoing basis. Mas Epoxy, and others also have information on the problem of blisters.
 
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Bob

You Can Do It!

Hang on, here we go................ When we were ready to sell our Hunter 25.5 about five years ago and had it hoisted for a bottom paint, we were upset when we counted over 900 blisters on the hull! PANIC!! After getting quotes on labor and repair charges (ouch)I decided to read up on blisters (tons of literature), invest in a decent but cheap grinder and orbital sander and go about repairing the blisters myself. I probably saved $1000, and although laborious, it was very easy in technique. If you at all handy with power tools this is really not hard at all. The first thing I did was observe in the yard other individuals repairing their blistered hulls, asked alot of questions and procured all my necessary tools, safety equipment (goggles, gloves, masks), chemicals (a swimming pool worth of acetone) and purchased the best seal materials from West Marine (3M). The blisters simply are filled with water "osmotic fluid", and a slight wave of the grinder (use varying sanding discs)cuts off the outer shell or gel coat to release the fluid. Under the gel coat you will see the fiberglass layers, and roving and you can visually evaluate the depth of the "soft spot" or saturated impacted material. Experts use varying tools to grind, pick, drill, gouge, or otherwise remove the soft decay like a dentist working on a bad cavity. Never do you want to go thru the hull!! Technique!! Finesse!! As you work on blisters and know just how far to go you only improve along the way. One critical need I must emphasize is to avoid cleaned blister exposure to rain, so the easiest way to deal with that is purchase a roll of visqueen, use duct tape and tape along just above the waterline since your blister impact is no higher then the waterline. Since we have two halves (port and starboard sides) you can flip them or roll them up and secure them while working. I laced the two pieces up at the bow each day I finished to keep the plastic from blowing up and weighted them at the bottom as well. Make sure that they are long enough to come down to the ground. Either way, thats job number one. No doubt summer is the best time to work for the benefit of heat and drying affect, but you wil probably shoot for the spring. Blisters on average are less then a quarter in size, so after the grinding is complete and your satisified they are clean, apply copious quantities of acetone to remove residual dust and debris. Some of the other folks would use a hand hair dryer for a moment or two to blow out the void and aid in more rapid drying. However, according to many, any residual moisture in the void will be driven out by the sealer. I think the hype about setting the hull in a tent to dry for a year with heat lamps and special chemicals as far as I was concerned is just that, hype! Their are some fantastic products (3M) used to fill in the voids that are easy to mix (like spackle) and apply. They make it easy for you, because the epoxy filler in two parts turns a nive light green when mixed properly. The toughest part of the job was not the grinding, but the application of the filler material, fairing and sanding. The stuff dries like a ROCK and you learn after awhile to apply it in two stages depending on the size of the blister. If you apply too much and do not fair it well it will require lots of sanding. It will expand slightly, so steady as you go. Application is in two-parts then for larger voids. I would be lying to you if I did not say, it'll keep you bentover a lot and raised hell on my back! I used several stools to make it easier. Upon completion, the job was accomplished with just as good a result as any professional. In fact I was lucky enough to witness several blistered repaired hulls in the yard and one of the repair guys would critique my work and give me pointers along the way. I saved a bundle and took great pride in taking up the challenge. One the voids are filled and faired it almost seems like the hull is the strongest its ever been. That 3M filler material is incredible!! I would have a professional take a look at the blisters (diameter does not necessarily mean they are deeper), get several quotes and decide what direction you wish to go. The yard folks can grind them and you can save by filling them, or take on the entire job yourself and always get help along the way.Having blisters on a vessel (more prevalent in freshwater by the way, due to density differences), seems commonplace these days. Opting for peeling the gel (major bucks), is your last option and it would take a zillion blisters before I would ever go down that road. Take your time, ask questions, read the literature and assess all the options. The key is patience. Best of luck Bob Catalina 30
 
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Drew

Cat 30?

Bad Obsession - I gotta chime in here. It seems to my humble self that if you want to buy a bigger boat, go for it. But there is no shortage of Cat 30's out there, and you should be able to find one without the litany of problems you are describing (I assume same boat from previous post). If you can find a boat, priced right, that needs elbow greese or project work with which you are familiar and experienced, all the better. To paraphrase J.P. Morgan, if you have to ask how to deal with/pay for major work, you can't do it yourself/pay for it. My two cents says find a healthier old boat, even if it costs a couple grand more. If you want a wreck to learn on, there are blistered and banged up boats you can buy for 500 bucks - a cheaper and less potentially heartbreaking avenue.
 
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