Bill In MD legislature to ban treatment systems in MD

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Mar 16, 2010
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Catalina 375 Toronto
QUOTE FROM PREVIOUS THREAD: Where do you think the discharge from sewage treatment plants goes???

The key word there is "treatment".

The systems that municipal treatment plants use are just a little bit more sophisticated than the little bottle of green stuff that you are dumping into your holding tank before discharge (if people do that at all) AND, when the treatment plant releases the treated water back into waterways, they do so using pipes that distribute it miles off shore, away from the kiddies splashing around in their inflatable dragon.

C'mon people. I know it's easy to say that politicians are not the answer to the problem - I agree. But many of you are not even acknowledging that this is a problem. The bottom line is that the less waste in our waters (everywhere) is better for all of us right? So instead of griping that it is a huge inconvenience because of line ups, not deep enough at the pump out dock, may have to pay $5. Think about it! It has to start somewhere, sometime, soon! If and when it becomes law, there will be shiny, deep and cheap pump out stations popping up everywhere. Even where you tie up your boat at the end of a sail. Getting in the habit of pumping out before you need to will become second nature just like we don't wait until our cars run out of gas before we put more in.

Next time your kids or grandkids want to go for a swim off the transom or play at a local beach. Think about the water you are sending them into. As a boater you may be responsible and stay within the existing law that insists you dump as clean as you can. But not all do. Let's be honest, do you really think that the 4 oz. of magic green liquid that you pour into a nasty holding tank miraculously gets into every chunk of s#!t that you put into it. And do you really believe that the "treated" waste you pumped out is basically drinking water quality and that none of the bits of burrito from last nights dinner will float and travel? Did the boat that just sailed past while the kiddies were in the water follow the law? Even if they did, and the FECAL COUNT they just released around little Jimmy and Susie is deemed acceptable...

...once again, all I can say is C'mon people!
 
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Jan 22, 2009
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Hunter 31 '83_'87 Blue Water Marina
How many who cite municipal waste water discharges would be willing to pay more for their water service? The capacity is what it is because that is what the planners think the public will bear. It's not enough when it rains hard but most days don't rain hard.
Costs a lot of money to improve.
I pump out, in fact I don't any longer have the ability to pump over board. Only rigged to the holding tank.
Sorry, Bruce, I never met you.
 
Dec 2, 1997
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I don't think you quite understand what onboard "treatment" really is

QUOTE FROM PREVIOUS THREAD: Where do you think the discharge from sewage treatment plants goes???

The key word there is "treatment".

You're right...the key word IS "treatment." But what you're missing is, there is nothing that can be added to a tank to "treat" the contents.... "Treated" is defined as the waste from a CG Certified Type I or Type II MSD...e.g. Lectra/San, Electro/Scan, PuraSan. And the discharge from today's Type I and II treatment devices is actually cleaner than the discharge from most sewage plants...the discharge from the most popular ones has a bacteria count of <10/100 ml--almost potable.

Your comment that "The systems that municipal treatment plants use are just a little bit more sophisticated than the little bottle of green stuff that you are dumping into your holding tank before discharge (if people do that at all)" suggests that, till this moment, you've actually been unaware of the existance of CG certified treatment devices...You're not alone. Because they're pricy and consume power, boat builders don't install 'em...so most owners don't know there's any alternative to a holding tank. To them, "can't flush the toilet directly overboard" means "no discharge"...so they feed the myth that new "no discharge" laws actually accomplish anything.

If you'd like learn a little about onboard treatment, check out these sites:

Raritan Waste Treatment

http://www.mfe.govt.nz/publications/water/lectrasan-report-jun02.pdf


You said, "...AND, when the treatment plant releases the treated water back into waterways, they do so using pipes that distribute it miles off shore, away from the kiddies splashing around in their inflatable dragon."

Most inland lakes and rivers are only a mile or so wide, even less in many places....the sewage treatment plant pipe can be as short as 100 yards! And those sewage pipes aren't nearly as far offshore in coastal waters as you'd like to believe either!
 
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I'd add that most sewage treatment plants don't have a way to deal with overflow, and will discharge untreated sewage if there is too much sewage flowing into them. So, in really heavy rains, there is often quite a bit of UNTREATED SEWAGE flowing out of the treatment plants....
 
Feb 26, 2004
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Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
How many who cite municipal waste water discharges would be willing to pay more for their water service? The capacity is what it is because that is what the planners think the public will bear. ...
Costs a lot of money to improve.
The FINES the municipal sewage jerks pay is from OUR taxes.

What gross stupidity.
 
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