Bicycle GPS speedo for boat

Sep 20, 2014
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Rob Legg RL24 Chain O'Lakes
Anyone ever used a bicycle GPS speedometer on their boat? Have been wanting to install a speedo of some sort. Looking at the cost, the standard sensor in the water type seem to be rather expensive, and somewhat questionable accuracy. So that got me thinking. The automotive after market speedos have turned to GPS, so in doing a little search, I've discovered that there is a number of bicycle GPS speedometers that are rather inexpensive. Many of these speedos have a homing feature, where it will give you an arrow direction and distance from a preset waypoint. That also seemed desirable in that on occasion I have sailed at night, and it can be difficult to find the port. (inland lake - beaching the boat on the campground shore). So it seems like one of these bicycle speedos could be the cats meow for sailing, except that it reads in MPH rather than knots, which is not all bad anyway. So is anyone using one, and have they found any one particular brand more useful than anything else?
 
Oct 2, 2006
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Jboat J24 commack


Pretty hard to beat the the 72H

My bicycle and hiking stuff cost MUCH MORE MONEY;)
 
Sep 20, 2014
1,328
Rob Legg RL24 Chain O'Lakes
I was seeing stuff in the under 60 dollar range on Ebay or Amazon.

Was noticing some of these have a heart rate monitor too - seems I could attach that to DW so I would know when to reef.
 
Dec 19, 2006
5,818
Hunter 36 Punta Gorda
Smart phone

Do you have a smart phone and you can get chartplotter app
pretty cheap like Navionics.
I have Navionics on my Iphone and is great just like a chartplotter.
Nick
 
Sep 20, 2014
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Rob Legg RL24 Chain O'Lakes
The problem with a smart phone is that it is not water resistant and is not readily mountable. That and between the GPS and having the display on all the time, the battery life is really short. The smart phone stays in a waterproof container incase things go really wrong.
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,158
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
I don't think you'll get a lot of support for this idea.... Why spend money on something with limited use... You're struggling pretty hard to save $60 and a reliable handheld marine GPS is very basic safety equipment for any sailor... Look around for a Garmin GPS 72, or an old 76... A marine gps has all the navigational bouys and markers ... tides.. waypoint and route functions.. speed, eta, vmg, etc... Here's a NEW garmin gps 72H... http://www.thegpsstore.com/Garmin-GPS-72H-Handheld-GPS-P2236.aspx
 

caguy

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Sep 22, 2006
4,004
Catalina, Luger C-27, Adventure 30 Marina del Rey
The Polaris Navigation app can't be beat. It's free easy to read and accurate. The screen is well laid out. We used it this weekend on a friends boat who had a handheld GPS hardwired to a charger at the helm. I couldn't reach it because the cord was short. I pulled out the my Galaxy Note 3 and fired up the Polaris app. He wants to download it to his phone and mount it at the helm.
Thanks to this thread I discovered that it also has maps to download, I am downloading as I speak. As soon as it finishes I will photograph screen. Everyone who has review this give it 5/5 stars.
Best yet it is FREE! But don't let the price discourage you I would have paid considerably for this app and I already have a Garmin GPS/Sounder. Stand by maps are 44% downloaded. 211 mbs..

In the meantime here is a link to their site.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.discipleskies.android.polarisnavigation&hl=en

Pictures do not do it justice screen is much sharper and vibrant.
 

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Dec 19, 2006
5,818
Hunter 36 Punta Gorda
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I have a Garmin 76 with chip and it is a great tool to use every where,can be used biking,hiking car and boating.
The $$$$ better for one of these that has so much helpful info
for boating like tides,waypoints and the GPS and compass are great tools for
boating info.
I have seen many on boats and can be used with batteries or plug in 12 volt,
and so many ways making a mount too.
I found mine on E-bay and many years ago in WM had a great sale,I use mine
for Kayaking here in mangroves and rivers in Florida keeps me from getting lost.
Nick
 
Oct 24, 2010
2,405
Hunter 30 Everett, WA
If all you are after is speed I see nothing wrong with your proposal. If you intend to sail unfamiliar water, see bottom contours, or other navigation functions you will need to do something else. It all just depends on what you want to do with it. I carry a mapping GPS that I bought for my boat on my bicycle (rubber banded to the headlight) to see speed and distance.

Ken
 

Sumner

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Jan 31, 2009
5,254
Macgregor & Endeavour 26S and 37 Utah's Canyon Country
..ook around for a Garmin GPS 72, or an old 76....
I agree with Joe and the others. I have 3 or 4 76's now and a couple I bought on ebay had never been used and the others no real sign of use. Found them for $60 or less in most cases.

I use them in the cockpit connected to the computer running SeaClear below and now OpenCPN but for the fact I want to pass waypoints onto them they could be used standalone for what you want to do.

Just much more flexible for what you want to do vs. the bike deal.

One with a current $40 bid...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garmin-GPSMAP-76S-Handheld-/251756843945?pt=GPS_Devices&hash=item3a9de093a9

Another for $65 buy-it-now...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garmin-GPSM...1234674764?pt=GPS_Devices&hash=item2eda85744c

Sumner

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walt

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Jun 1, 2007
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Macgregor 26S Hobie TI Ridgway Colorado
One caution about the Lowrance Elite 4 and Mark 4..

I have two of these and overall like them. I use them mostly to tell depth and speed and these have a bunch of other nice features (also overall low power at 12 volts).

But.. one of the reasons bought this unit was so that I could look at my max speed after a sailing session. Ive had both the models above and they give some really bad max speed readings. One time I reset the trip readings and left it on for about 10 hours. Boat was sitting in the driveway on the trailer but still managed a peak speed of over 20 mph.. I returned one unit because of this, replacement did the same thing. I also carry a hand held Garmin and everytime I compare the peak speeds registered of the two units, the Elite 4 is way off (too high). The Garmin seems way more accurate. The models above still work great if its your speed at any moment that you care about.
 
Sep 20, 2014
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Rob Legg RL24 Chain O'Lakes
Did not previously considered used, why? I'm not sure, my boat is used. I'm going to keep my eyes open now.

My boat is used as a day sailor in somewhat familiar waters. I can't see needing any kind of navigational charts, sailing off the shores of Lake Michigan, or inland lakes. The find home feature would be useful for Lake Michigan, as once you get out on the water, the shore can look very different. We also sailed on Carlyle Reservoir. The shoreline is just campsites, so it is totally dark at night. This meant we sailed perpendicular from the shoreline, and then back, to make sure we found our campsite again. "Find home" would have let us sail the length of the lake at night. I really don't think I would ever do any formal "navigating", as sailing off a trailer, I always return to the same place I started. Not much to "explore" in open water.

I have yet to see a GPS constantly read an accurate max speed. My POV camera has a GPS, and showed I was moving at 12 mph with no wind. My car GPS has shown a top speed of 106 mph in my motorhome. I'm pretty sure the RV would do that, but not with DW on board.
 

Sumner

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Jan 31, 2009
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Macgregor & Endeavour 26S and 37 Utah's Canyon Country
One added feature that could be a life saver with the marine units is the Man Overboard Button. If someone goes over and it takes you a minute to get the boat turned around and you loose sight of them now at least you have something to go on in finding them.

You also don't have to retrace your steps to get back home. Log the entry point as a waypoint and then you can just tell it to point you in that direction and it will show you the way. If say the way in is a little complicated you can put in as many waypoints as you want to get back in and then use them with the 'go-to-waypoint' feature. This could be a big help with narrower channels in the dark,

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Nov 9, 2012
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Oday 192 Lake Nockamixon
The problem with a smart phone is that it is not water resistant and is not readily mountable. That and between the GPS and having the display on all the time, the battery life is really short. The smart phone stays in a waterproof container incase things go really wrong.
I used my iPhone in a LifeProof waterproof case, with their suction cup holder, and Motion-X GPS to see the speed. The problem with this is running the GPS and the screen backlight kills the battery. And I'm pretty sure the suction cup mount obscures the bottom trap door where the Lightning cable could plug in to keep the battery topped off. But, it still works.

http://www.lifeproof.com/shop/us_en/iphone-5s/iphone-5s-case-2014-colors/?color=Lime+/+Black

http://www.lifeproof.com/shop/us_en...roof-suction-cup-mount-for-fre-iphone-5-case/

Oh, no, I just looked at the picture of the suction mount (which I had put on the back of the cabin) and I see that the bottom isn't obstructed. So, I could get a Lightning cable to plug in and run into the cabin to the cigarette lighter charger mounted on the aft bulkhead of the cabin next to the electric panel. But I haven't. The biggest problem is that it's not super visible in the sun. I can see where a Garmin bike computer that is just black LCD would be better in this regard, but I don't know that there would be good options to mount it. My buddy has had several for his bike, and he's always using it, or swearing at it because he forgot to charge it overnight before the big ride :D:D:D
 

caguy

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Sep 22, 2006
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I used my iPhone in a LifeProof waterproof case, with their suction cup holder, and Motion-X GPS to see the speed. The problem with this is running the GPS and the screen backlight kills the battery. And I'm pretty sure the suction cup mount obscures the bottom trap door where the Lightning cable could plug in to keep the battery topped off. But, it still works.

http://www.lifeproof.com/shop/us_en/iphone-5s/iphone-5s-case-2014-colors/?color=Lime+/+Black

http://www.lifeproof.com/shop/us_en...roof-suction-cup-mount-for-fre-iphone-5-case/

Oh, no, I just looked at the picture of the suction mount (which I had put on the back of the cabin) and I see that the bottom isn't obstructed. So, I could get a Lightning cable to plug in and run into the cabin to the cigarette lighter charger mounted on the aft bulkhead of the cabin next to the electric panel. But I haven't. The biggest problem is that it's not super visible in the sun. I can see where a Garmin bike computer that is just black LCD would be better in this regard, but I don't know that there would be good options to mount it. My buddy has had several for his bike, and he's always using it, or swearing at it because he forgot to charge it overnight before the big ride :D:D:D
On the boat we keep the cell phone plugged in because we are usually running Pandora on it.
Have you tried the Sea Quest app?
That's another sweet litlle app that is only available on Apple.