Beneteau 321 In Mast Furling

Aug 24, 2020
41
Beneteau Oceanis 321 321 Little River, SC
Hi everyone! I just bought a 1995 Beneteau Oceanis 321 with the furling in mast mainsail option. Can anyone tell me if Beneteau used Selden or Zspar for the in mast furling system in the 1995 Beneteau? I found a furling mainsail for sale for a Beneteau 321 but the ad says it’s for a Zspar system so I’m trying to figure out if this sail would work on my ‘95 Beneteau. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
Feb 21, 2013
4,638
Hunter 46 Point Richmond, CA
Welcome to the forum and congratulations on your new sailboat!!

Take a look at the mast base and boom underside to find the manufacturer and serial number. A photo of your mast and furling line would be helpful. Is this what your mast furler looks like?

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Aug 24, 2020
41
Beneteau Oceanis 321 321 Little River, SC
Hi Sfbay, thanks so much for your reply. Actually yes, mine does look a lot like the one in the pic. The mast is open near the bottom with a long worm gear just like the one shown in the picture.

Now I just got a new sail quote from Neil Pryde and they didn’t ask what type of furling system I have so idk if it matters or if they already know from the year & make of the boat. They just said that as long as the mast opening is 5/8” then I should be able to get their vertically battened mainsail inside no problem.

I’ll be back on the boat Wednesday and will look at the base of the mast like you suggested. That makes sense. Will take pics too and post. Then as soon as I have this figured out I can order new sails.
 
Aug 24, 2020
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Beneteau Oceanis 321 321 Little River, SC
Thanks that’s really helpful. Yeah I’ll download the manual as I’m sure that will come in handy
 
Jun 21, 2004
2,777
Beneteau 343 Slidell, LA
I found a furling mainsail for sale for a Beneteau 321 but the ad says it’s for a Zspar system so I’m trying to figure out if this sail would work on my ‘95 Beneteau. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks!
Beneteau used US Spars mast & furlor on my 2006 vintage boat. Not sure of the history, so your best bet is locate identification on your mast. Others may disagree; however, I wouldn't try to retrofit a used sail from a different model to your boat. These roller furling sails are finicky enough to use. If the used sail is stretched, it will cause problems from the get go, not to mention that it will cost to modify the sail for your mast & furlor. If you are going to replace the sail, buy a new one. When it is time for me to replace mine, I will likely use Neil Pryde as they have a wealth of experience with Beneteaus. I am not so interested in performance, just want a reliable sail that works well with the US Spars system.
 
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Aug 24, 2020
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Beneteau Oceanis 321 321 Little River, SC
Thanks BigEasy, it’s funny you mention Neil Pryde because I just got a quote from them today for the mainsail and it was a good price in my opinion. $1400 without battens and $1600 with vertical battens. The $1200 sail I saw online is supposedly surplus so it’s never been used. Of course you can’t trust that. Regardless if I want vertical battens which I think I do, then Neil Pryde is the way to go. Im checking the width of the mast to see if the battened sail will fit. Need a 5/8” opening according to Neil Pryde.
 
Oct 10, 2018
33
Beneteau 321 Bay Harbor Marina, Bay City MI
I just purchased a new sail for my 1998 ( mast furling). The old one would no longer roll into the mast without messing around and needing a couple of people. Got it from North Sails in Detroit. With insignia and sacrificial material it cost me $1472 delivered. Looks nice. Point is a used mast roller sail very well could look good but blown out of shape and won't furl. But that's just my experience. I didn't have battens before so I didn't get them on new sail.
 
Feb 21, 2013
4,638
Hunter 46 Point Richmond, CA
...........The $1200 sail I saw online is supposedly surplus so it’s never been used. Of course you can’t trust that. Regardless if I want vertical battens which I think I do.................,
Great price!! ................let share how the sail fits, whether the battens are full or partial vertical and your experience furling the mainsail out of and into the mast.
 
Aug 24, 2020
41
Beneteau Oceanis 321 321 Little River, SC
Great price!! ................let share how the sail fits, whether the battens are full or partial vertical and your experience furling the mainsail out of and into the mast.
Will do....still have quotes coming in but so far I like the vertically battened Neil Pryde sail if my mast has 5/8” opening which I’m checking tomorrow. So much to do....⛵
 
Mar 20, 2016
595
Beneteau 351 WYC Whitby
Mines a 94 zspar and the opening was only 1/2 inch , so I went with a tri radial sail instead of battens . My jam days are in the past . Has not jammed once since installing
 
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Aug 24, 2020
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Beneteau Oceanis 321 321 Little River, SC
That does worry me a bit Mechone. The sail I’m replacing has no battens but Neil Pryde has assured me that they have successfully outfitted other Beneteau 321’s of my boat’s vintage with furling battened sails quite successfully. With the regular furling mainsail you’re losing 18-20% of sail area as compared to a conventional rig. The vertical battens allow you to regain about half of that area and the corresponding boost in performance which I really like. I’ll keep you all posted as the furling mainsail drama continues....
 
Jun 21, 2004
2,777
Beneteau 343 Slidell, LA
The sail I’m replacing has no battens but Neil Pryde has assured me that they have successfully outfitted other Beneteau 321’s of my boat’s vintage with furling battened sails quite successfully.
A Neil Pryde loft modified my original furling mainsail with vertical battens approximately 7 years ago to their "thin batten and pocket design" The pocket & batten profile is now thinner and eliminates problems when furling / unfurling as long as you maintain suitable tension on the outhaul line as you're furling. Tension on the outhaul results in a tighter sail wrap inside the mast and reduces friction. It was money well spent for me. IF I were to incorporate vertical battens, I would ensure that I would use the Neil Pryde "thin batten/power batten design."
 
Mar 20, 2016
595
Beneteau 351 WYC Whitby
That does worry me a bit Mechone. The sail I’m replacing has no battens but Neil Pryde has assured me that they have successfully outfitted other Beneteau 321’s of my boat’s vintage with furling battened sails quite successfully. With the regular furling mainsail you’re losing 18-20% of sail area as compared to a conventional rig. The vertical battens allow you to regain about half of that area and the corresponding boost in performance which I really like. I’ll keep you all posted as the furling mainsail drama continues....
Oh I'm fully a where of the extra roach , researched it and had 5 quotes including Neil pride ,who said don't do it if your opening is only 1/2. Only one sail maker said its fine and that was north ,who I don't think really cared.
Suggest you read this https://www.quantumsails.com/en/res...les/the-truth-about-in-mast-furling-mainsails.
I bought a precision sail in the end who also told me don't do it , go tri radial made from performance cloth and I can tell you it made a huge difference over the Neil Pride it replaced .
 
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Feb 21, 2013
4,638
Hunter 46 Point Richmond, CA
Mechone.................you just confirmed my recent decision to replace both of my cross cut dacron sails with polyester cruising laminate sails.
 
Aug 24, 2020
41
Beneteau Oceanis 321 321 Little River, SC
Thanks BigEasy that’s good to know. My thinking as well...PBF battened mainsail from Neil Pryde.

The original mainsail furled in my mast is a Doyle. It was crammed into the mast when I first got the boat! Lol! works fine now.

I still have not been able to confirm the furling system in my mast. Cannot find anything at the base of the mast except the electrical wires info as to which wire goes to what. Someone here says they think I have a Z-spar but my opening is at least 5/8” and almost a full 3/4” wide so idk.

I’ll go though all the manuals etc, there must be a way to find out. I’ll try Beneteau as well. But I really like the idea of getting back the extra sail area with the battened Neil Pryde sail. So let’s see.....
 
Aug 24, 2020
41
Beneteau Oceanis 321 321 Little River, SC
UPDATE: Ok I found my mast maker. It’s an Isomat mast. The name was so faded on the mast I could barely see it.

But I’m still not sure how that tells me what kind of furling system it uses. Checked the internet and it seems Isomat had their own furling system at least at one time. Mechone says his ‘94 is a Zspar with only a 1/2” opening. Measured my opening 3 times and it’s at least 5/8”.

So at this point I think I’m going to try the battened Neil Pryde mainsail.