I wondered if anyone has experience club racing a Beneteau 311 keel centerboard or std keel. I am looking at buying one,a 2001 and would appreciate any comments. Also, how big of a Genoa can be used? I believe a standard is about 115%. Can a 130 fit? I know the shrouds are the deciding factor. Also any comments on the centerboard maintenace. Thanks, Tom
beer can racing a 311 beneteau keel/centerboard
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The 311 has a decent hull-form, based on the Figaro. With the outboard shrouds, you are probably limited to that 115.... any bigger the sails leech would run into the spreaders. Going outside really not a possibility. See if your local club or PHRF board will give you credit for the undersized genoa if the existing number does not take it into account.
Hope you are going to use a spin. Racing JAM, boats with non-overlapping headsails get KILLED in W/L races.
Hope you are going to use a spin. Racing JAM, boats with non-overlapping headsails get KILLED in W/L races.
of course you can race that boat for beer can racing, as long as you follow the rules! see link;
http://www.latitude38.com/misc/10Command-opt.pdf
i evan race my boat for the beer cans!
http://www.latitude38.com/misc/10Command-opt.pdf
i evan race my boat for the beer cans!
I have a 311. It is a nice cruising boat. The standard Gennoa is a 116%, because of the outboard placement of the shrouds you really can not go any bigger. The centerboard mechanism need to be greased every year, that can be done when the boat is hauled and it's in the slings. If you haul the boat every year no problem.
Not sure how much you will like the boat for racing .
Not sure how much you will like the boat for racing .
I don't know what racing JAM means. Could you clarify that? We do race windward leeward and most of the competition are fin keel 30ft with 150 genoas. Any enhancements you could recommend ?
JAM
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Verdana,Monaco][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Verdana,Monaco][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Verdana,Monaco]JAM Keelboat Racing (evenings, weekly)
JAM stands for "Jib and Main" (also referred to as "White Sails"). Basically, it is PHRF keelboat racing without the spinnaker (PHRF issues ratings for boats with and without a spinnaker).
Why JAM? Flying a spinnaker can be a major impediment for people who may want to get involved in racing if they; (1) lack a spinnaker and gear, (2) lack the skills to fly a spinnaker with confidence, and/or (3) lack large enough crew to handle the chute. For obvious reasons, JAM is ideal for people who may be interested in trying their hand at racing, but are unsure about committing themselves to the expense and trouble of flying a spinnaker. JAM also attracts husband and wife teams who want to race their boat without the need for additional crew to handle the spinnaker. The same logic applies to skippers of some of the bigger boats who otherwise spend an inordinate amount of time rounding up the sizable crew that is usually required to make effective use of a chute in a race.
JAM has its ardent followers, but it also serves as a good entry point for people who may just be starting to get involved in sailboat racing. Boats racing JAM should have a valid PHRF certificate.[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Verdana,Monaco][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Verdana,Monaco][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Verdana,Monaco]JAM Keelboat Racing (evenings, weekly)
JAM stands for "Jib and Main" (also referred to as "White Sails"). Basically, it is PHRF keelboat racing without the spinnaker (PHRF issues ratings for boats with and without a spinnaker).
Why JAM? Flying a spinnaker can be a major impediment for people who may want to get involved in racing if they; (1) lack a spinnaker and gear, (2) lack the skills to fly a spinnaker with confidence, and/or (3) lack large enough crew to handle the chute. For obvious reasons, JAM is ideal for people who may be interested in trying their hand at racing, but are unsure about committing themselves to the expense and trouble of flying a spinnaker. JAM also attracts husband and wife teams who want to race their boat without the need for additional crew to handle the spinnaker. The same logic applies to skippers of some of the bigger boats who otherwise spend an inordinate amount of time rounding up the sizable crew that is usually required to make effective use of a chute in a race.
JAM has its ardent followers, but it also serves as a good entry point for people who may just be starting to get involved in sailboat racing. Boats racing JAM should have a valid PHRF certificate.[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]
Stu called the JAM definition. It's hard for boats with Non-overlapping headsails to do well downwind. DDW the jib is small poled out wing on wing so slow, and if used to reach deep the the jib does not want to fill when going deep. Your only good option then is to heat (head) up a bit and help the sail fill, and hope that the extra speed makes up for the loss of windward distance.
In mid distance races, a code zero or gennaker can help slightly off wind, but for pure windward work it can't help.
I feel your pain. Our small boat (the first 260) is non overlapping. A great race boat with a crew. Upwind we rock. Short handed, we have to use the asym to have a chance.
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