Bed-It Butyl Tape

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Feb 6, 1998
11,701
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Hi All,

I've had lots of emails since I took my Bed-It Butyl Tape ad down. The ad is back up and I am shipping again. Sorry for the delays.

Bed-It Butyl Tape

Maine Sail
 
Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
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You had better get you a-- back to work. There are a lot of sailors out there ready to fix up their boats and you are just out having fun! <g>
 
Oct 10, 2009
1,035
Catalina 27 3657 Lake Monroe
Maine Sail-
Does butyl tape work well for rebedding teak hand rails, hatch runners, etc.?
May have missed something in your excellent posts on the topic, but that's what I'm doing this Spring and I'd sure like to try tape instead of caulk.

Thanks!
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,701
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Maine Sail-
Does butyl tape work well for rebedding teak hand rails, hatch runners, etc.?
May have missed something in your excellent posts on the topic, but that's what I'm doing this Spring and I'd sure like to try tape instead of caulk.

Thanks!
Teak is a perfect application for butyl tape and it allows for future removal without destroying $500.00 worth of teak..
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,701
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
What about underwater applications such as thru-hulls?

Rich
While it would likely work fine, they use it on underwater telecommunications cables, I am not personally recommending it or using it for that. So, USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. It works great though for deck hardware. Even the hull/deck joint on my our boat was done with butyl..
 

DannyS

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May 27, 2004
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Beneteau 393 Bayfield, Wi
Hey Maine Sail- last summer I began the process of rebedding some hardware the way you show in your excellent tutorial but I bought my butyl tape from an RV supplier online. This was before you started selling Bed-It. You state in your ad that your brand is not the same stuff you buy in the RV suppliers shops. What is the difference between the two? Do I need to RE-re-bed?
 
Jan 10, 2009
590
PDQ 32 Deale, MD
While it would likely work fine, they use it on underwater telecommunications cables, I am not personally recommending it or using it for that. So, USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. It works great though for deck hardware. Even the hull/deck joint on my our boat was done with butyl..
Other than conventional wisdom, why?

My first expereince with butyl was sealing concrete pipe and sealing the upper and lower halves of precast tanks together. All of this has been in the ground for 25 years by now, and none of it leaks (leak-tested this fall). Of course, the amount employed (2 x 1-inch square cords) is much greater, though most of this squeezes out over time.

I know butyl has a weakness with petroleum and diesel in the bilge wouldn't be good--never is--but the installations I'm an discussing are in the oil/water separation facilities of a refinery. They are not immersed in oil, but they have been exposed to some emulsified oil the whole period.

It also would not provide back-up adhesive properties, should the mechanical fasteners fail.

I gather it is a combination of concerns. When I rebed, I may go that way, since I have no fuel in the bilge (tanks and engines in bridge deck) and the through hulls are in a bulkheaded compartment.

I will share this expereince with butyl:
This summer I had to re-glaze a hatch (happens, when you drop an anchor on it). The factory had bedded the hatch 14 years earlier with butyl; it had not leaked a drop and the remove/replace process was an easy 15 minutes.

It is not the only sealant I use, but it is high on the list.
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,701
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Hey Maine Sail- last summer I began the process of rebedding some hardware the way you show in your excellent tutorial but I bought my butyl tape from an RV supplier online. This was before you started selling Bed-It. You state in your ad that your brand is not the same stuff you buy in the RV suppliers shops. What is the difference between the two? Do I need to RE-re-bed?
No you don't need to re-bed. There is a difference though and the stuff at the RV stores is a different consistency intended for sealing seam gaps in aluminum RV roofs etc.. It is a lighter density material. It can still work but is not the "ideal" consistency or make up for bedding through bolted hardware.

You should be fine though it may not last quite as long but still will yield a decent lifespan.
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,701
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Other than conventional wisdom, why?



It also would not provide back-up adhesive properties, should the mechanical fasteners fail.
Considering the vast majority of production boats have shortcut, non-proper through bolted seacocks, it is not a recommendation I am willing to make. These installation depend on the glue to keep them from spinning.

If you have a boat with a valve on a thru-hull the adhesive properties are very important so you don't twist it and break the seal.

Now with proper flanged seacocks this would be a better situation because there is no risk of the seacock turning. Remember though that the thru-hull needs to be threaded into the seacock to finish the install. Butyl is not ideal in this situation because it is soooo sticky that when threading it in it bites and grabs the hull and wants to ball up. It can be done but you just need to be more careful. A thick liquid goo like a polyurethane will work easier during the install in this scenario.

It's great stuff but I still use tube caulks too...
 
Dec 25, 2008
1,580
catalina 310 Elk River
Hmm, if instead of drilling a round thru hull, after the fact, mold a square one that would mate a square flanged thru hull (not sure that is the name for it?) when the hull is formed. This thru hull could also have a slight taper in it so when it was pulled up tight with an inner nut it would have no rotational play. This design would eliminate the problem with breaking the seal when changing valves.
Just a pipe dream... I doubt production houses would take the time to develop this system just so it would be easier to change a valve.
 
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