Battery Help!

Nov 15, 2014
23
Pearson P-34 Norfolk
Folks, I'm no electrician and when it comes to battery power and terms I'm lost. The two photos I've poster are the two batteries on my Pearson 34. They came with the boat when I purchased her about 1.5 years ago. The larger of the two was brand new at the time. I have them hooked up to a ProMariner Prosport 20 amp charger. I can't find a lot of information on the batteries but I think I have this right: the group 24M 500CCA battery is the marine starting battery while the group 27M 600CCA is the starting/deep cycle dual purpose battery. Can anyone confirm that?

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Nov 13, 2013
723
Catalina 34 Tacoma
Sounds right to me. The smaller group 24 would be used for high amperage loads like the starter. The deeper cycle group 27 would be for house or starting loads.
 
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May 17, 2004
6,151
Beneteau Oceanis 37 Havre de Grace
The fact that those are both labeled in CCA and RC makes me think that they're really both built as automotive starting batteries, not true deep cycle (which would be labeled in amp hours). Depending on your usage patterns you may find they won't handle many discharge cycles before they stop holding a charge.
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,759
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
The 24M is rated at 80Ah
The 27M is rated at 105Ah

These batteries are basically a "sticker-grade" battery made by Johnson Controls but wearing the DieHard sticker.. They do not hold up will to cycling use despite the "deep cycle" sticker they apply.

The only premium battery Sears sells for marine use is their Platinum line. The Platinum marine battery is an EnerSys TPPL AGM battery. It is the same battery as the Odyssey TPPL AGM. Rumor on the street is they dropped it (it has been showing as "unavailable" for months). This was reportedly due to the pricing being higher than their customer base was willing to spend.
 
May 24, 2004
7,213
CC 30 South Florida
The 27M is listed as a deep cycle battery and not a dual purpose one although it can be used for starting the small diesel. The PO probably chose the combination as not to burden the deep cycle battery with cranking loads and keep the house bank and starting bank independent of each other. My question would be, "how are they connected?". If connected by a 1,2, all,off battery switch I would suggest that for starting and motoring only to use the 24M and when under sail with the engine Off to use the 27M. I would refrain from combining them (both or all), as they are of different size and composition, but only for an emergency. This is not a critical warning that would cause instant harm but more of procedural recommendation to use the batteries as they were intended. If both batteries are good and they fill your needs then wait until they need replacement and get a pair of similar Group 27, deep cycle batteries. They can start your engine and could be combined to provide a house bank of double the size. It would surely cut down on battery switching as you could leave the dock and return on the same battery(s). It would be very appropriate to carry a fully charged battery pack to serve as a backup for starting the engine should the combined house batteries be drawn down. Also remember that the engine's alternator charge is only directed to the battery selected at the switch and only when combined at "All" would both batteries receive charge.
 
Nov 15, 2014
23
Pearson P-34 Norfolk
Thanks everyone for your help, I really appreciate it. If I had time I would take two courses at the local community college: diesel engine mechanics and a DC electrical course. For now I'm stuck using Doctor Google and getting help from good folks like yourself.
 
Nov 13, 2013
723
Catalina 34 Tacoma
Thanks everyone for your help, I really appreciate it. If I had time I would take two courses at the local community college: diesel engine mechanics and a DC electrical course. For now I'm stuck using Doctor Google and getting help from good folks like yourself.
Though I've tried to skip as many classes as possible, the best courses have been from the School of Hard Knocks.