Battery charge

Oct 2, 2005
465
I'm confused. My batteries show, with the bulb tester, that they have
a 75% charge but with the volt meter, when I make contact with the
terminals, they both show about 12.20 to maybe 12.70 volts. Shouldn't
that be enough to start the engine? The starter and engine turn over
but not enough to get up and go. I sail a couple of times a week but
only run the engine in and out the harbor, so thinking it wasn't long
enough to re-charge the batteries I ran her for a couple of hours, but
it made no difference in either reading. A reading of over 12 volts
on the voltmeter would indicate the batteries are good, right? The
engine is an MD7A Thanks
Craig Tern #1519
 
Oct 31, 2019
303
Actually a 12 volt battery when fully charged isn't 12 volts. A fully
charged 12 volt battery just off the charger will read above 13 volts and is
considered fully charge down to about 12.8 volts or so (when checked several
hours later). A volt reading of 12.5 to 12.4 is getting around 75% and 12.2
it is 50% or just below. When at 12.0 it is about 25%. Below 11.9, it is
dead and could be history.

To do a quick check of a battery with a volt meter, first give the battery a
good charge. Then unhook the battery from the system so there is no chance
of any draw and after 12 hours check the voltage. It the battery holds the
voltage above 12.8, then it is in excellent shape. If it falls below 12.5 or
12.6 after 12 hours, then it needs further checking and may need
replacement. Of course the only really accurate way to check a battery is to
take it to a shop and have it load tested.

Since I use AGM batteries, I can't check the specific gravity, but a
fully-charged wet-cell battery should have read around 1.265 and a 75%
charged battery will read 1.222. When a battery falls below 1.222 it is
subject to sulfation or hardening of the plates and this eventually destroys
the ability of the battery to generate power.

I usually try to keep my batteries above 12.5 as any battery has a limited
number of charge cycles before it needs to be replaced. Full discharge
cycles will age a battery faster than when they are not allowed to drop much
below 50%. So age and use is a big factor in how a battery will perform.

NOTEI assume your terminals are clean and all your writing and connections
are solid. This could have a significant impact on how well an engine turns
over. Diesel engines, even small ones, take more power to turn over because
of the high compression, so any drop between the battery and the starting
circuit will have a significant effect..

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From: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of vegatern
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:53 PM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] Battery charge

I'm confused. My batteries show, with the bulb tester, that they have
a 75% charge but with the volt meter, when I make contact with the
terminals, they both show about 12.20 to maybe 12.70 volts. Shouldn't
that be enough to start the engine? The starter and engine turn over
but not enough to get up and go. I sail a couple of times a week but
only run the engine in and out the harbor, so thinking it wasn't long
enough to re-charge the batteries I ran her for a couple of hours, but
it made no difference in either reading. A reading of over 12 volts
on the voltmeter would indicate the batteries are good, right? The
engine is an MD7A Thanks
Craig Tern #1519
 
May 3, 2004
34
Hi!

First you have to control that the battery is OK. The voltage should be above 12.8 V when charged and the voltage should not dropp quickly when putting on the lamps in the boat. You can also measure the voltage on the starter so that there is no dropp in voltage between the battery and starter.

If you find out that the battery, cabels etc are ok, then an other possibillity is that you have to change the carbons in the starter. I had similar problems as you last year, so I disconnected the starter, cleaned it and changed the carbons and it was like new again. A new starter is relatively expensive so it is worth the try to fix it. If you decide to open up the starter (Bosch), be aware of that two small screws that hold the carbons have first to be losened before you disamble it.

Your,

Björn
vega 2757
 
Oct 19, 2019
921
Albin Vega 27 Limerick
Craig,
if you ran engine for a few hours and volt meter reading is still
12.2-12.7 V then either your alternator is not charging (prob a blown
regulator) or as Chris Brown suggests the batteries may need replacing.

Easy to check the alternator - when engine is running your volt meter
should read about 14 V.

If alternator not charging bring it & regulator (if separate) to a car
electrics place & they will prob be able to fix quite cheaply.

John

Vega 1447 Breakaway
vegatern said in an email sent on 08/11/06 03:52 that:
 
Oct 30, 2019
23
Craig, a reading over 12V does not necessarily indicate your batteries
are good or charged. Actually, a fully charged battery should indicate
12.65V (unplugged and not used for couple of hours). At
http://www.uuhome.de/william.darden/SoC.xls there is a nice table in
which you find the relation between the state of charge of a battery,
related to the voltage and the temperature of the electrolyte (the
fluid within the battery). Roughly spoken you might say that 12.0V
indicates an empty battery, 12.2V indicates 50% charged, 12.45
indicates 75% charged and 12.65 indicates fully charged.
Best regards, Lucas
V2122 Hakuna Matata (Rotterdam)
 
Oct 2, 2005
465
Thanks for everyone's help. Tested the alternator as suggested and
she's ok, Then a load test which showed them both down. I think I
just allowed the batteries to remain down without enough time to
recharge and so damaged them, or perhaps they were getting old anyway.
At least the fix was easy. always learning . . . . Craig