banging noise on swing keel

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Michael Allen

I have a 1979 25' cataling boat with a swing keel. I have only had the boat for a few months but I notice that sometimes I hear a banging noise from the keel. I have read several articles that stated that this is not so unusual. Does anyone else have any suggestions on how to solve this? Thanks, Michael Allen PS. By the way this is a great site and everyone really is helpfull. I posted the article on how much wind speed is need to sail a 25'. I took your advice and it does do best in 10 to 20 wind speed.
 
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Mike Turner

Bang, Bang...

Michael -- You don't say when you're hearing the banging, but from my limited experience (I owned a '78 C-25 for a year before moving to the West Coast and moving up to an '81 C-30) it's not too unusual and there's no real "fix." If you're hearing the banging when at your slip or at anchor -- are you leaving the keel down, or retracting it? You should retract it when not underway -- heavy as it is, it still could "work" (bounce up and down in the trunk) in a heavy swell if down and potentially damage the trunk and related gear to raise/lower it. If you're hearing it when underway -- I heard that from time to time, particularly when in chop (I sailed on the Potomac River at Washington, DC), again just from "working" up and down in the trunk. I think that's just a characteristic of swing keels, period -- and no harm done. BUT -- it's important to service the swing mechanism (the bolt mechanism at the forward end of the keel/truck that it pivots on) and the pennant (the cable and crank/winch used to raise/lower the keel) on occasion. The pivot point in particular tends to wear, particularly over long periods of time given the type of "working" I'm talking about. If it were to let go -- well, the keel would drop out. Extremely rare, so don't start worrying about i just because I mentioned it. But sufficient justification to check it from time to time and replace if needed. And if the pennant/winch assembly goes you're stuck either up or down, neither good. So the next time you haul her you might want to check both. Having owned both a C-25 and a C-30 I can tell you they're both wonderful boats. My C-25 was great for river sailing -- that swing keel can really come in handy -- and I had some great overnight experiences on the Potomac in autumn (and summer, too). I'd buy one again in a minute and it'll be my top choice if I ever go back to river sailing and gunkholing. And the C-30 is an incredible boat for the type of close coastal cruising we do here in Southern California -- a real "ocean sailor" in those type of conditions --and a virtual "condo on the water" when we take her to Catalina Island. Hope this helps or at least gives you some peace of mind. Oh, as to wind speed -- my theory is that any amount enough to sail in is enough! I'm usually worried about too much versus not enough. And when there's no wind -- that's why they invented shore power, microwaves and blenders... Mike Turner S/Y Amity Long Beach, CA
 
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david

bang this

Michael, I have a C-22 swing keel and due to its age, there is some slop in the keel pin that the keel hangs on. It is most noticeable with the keel retracted and on the mooring. There are kits and other techniques availble to take out the motion. Don't know if this is of any help, you didn't specify when you heard that banging, and under what condition, and if it is a reproducable noise. Mr. Turner is right in stating that you should check the entire system, altho it doesn't sound like anything too serious. david
 
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Michael Allen

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I hear the noise while the keel is down and sailing in light winds. If the boat is in heavier winds then it seems to be fine unless it is real choppy and then I also hear it. I had the system checked out from the guy who cleans the bottom of my boat and he said that everything is fine.
 
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CHARLIE

Keel Bang

I have a 86' Catalina 22 with the swing keel. I've only had it one seson and when I bought it I knew the keel had problems. I removed the keel (not to easy a feat on the trailer in the back yard) and found that the pivot hole in the keel was severly worn. I had a local machine shop fabricate and install a stainless bushing and with new hardware from Catalina Direct including thier anti klunck pads, put it together and sailed all season last year without a sound from the keel in any weather on both tacks. The whole deal cost less than $200 (my labor is cheap) and well worth it.
 
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Shane

Banging Keel

I too had the problem so this fall I put in the kit with the pads from catalina direct and I will see this spring if it helped.
 
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