Baking bread?

Jan 19, 2019
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Oday 27 Hudson, Wisconsin
Do any of you live-aboard folk bake your own bread? If so, what do you use? Electric? Just curious (we are baking a lot of bread at home these days, and wondering about the logistics of baking bread on board)
~Lisa
 
Jan 11, 2014
12,331
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
I haven't tried this yet, however, it seems like it would work well on a boat. No need for a bread machine, just an oven.

 
Mar 1, 2012
2,182
1961 Rhodes Meridian 25 Texas coast
Absolutely.
Bread , potatoes, biscuits, what ever. I use a pressure cooker with the rubber gasket removed. Even use it to pressure can stuff. Of course you need to use a round pan to bake the bread in.

All done on a one burner stove
 
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Jan 19, 2010
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Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
Here are some previous discussions on the topic

 

Bob J.

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Apr 14, 2009
774
Sabre 28 NH
I haven't tried this yet, however, it seems like it would work well on a boat. No need for a bread machine, just an oven.

I've tried three different no knead bread recipes over the winter. Makes a very heavy bread, didn't care for them.
 
Jan 11, 2014
12,331
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
To make consistent bread it is better to weigh ingredients instead of using dry measures, especially for flour. A cup of flour can be fairly light if it is well aerated or heavier if packed down. Also use metric weights as the math is easier.

Bakers use hydration levels, or the percentage of water to the weight of the flour, 60 grams of water to 100 grams of flour is a 60% hydration level. Most breads are in the 65-70% hydration level.

More flavorful bread comes from using less yeast and longer proofing times. When I make baguettes (at 80% hydration) I let part of the dough ferment over night in the refrigerator, same with pizza dough (65% hydration). Here's the recipe for the baguettes, a great recipe, but not all that boat friendly.

 

PaulK

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Dec 1, 2009
1,318
Sabre 402 Southport, CT
We had a French baker move into town and learned that the humidity level of the flour was a major component in determining how the bread turned out. He spent a LONG time (months!) looking for a supplier who could furnish him flour at a consistent humidity so that the bread would always come out the same. Knew a guy from Pepperidge Farm who told me they’d once refused a trainload (not just a traincar but a trainload) of flour because it wasn’t to their standard. Ingredients make a difference!
 
Jan 19, 2010
12,548
Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
I heard of a story of a guy from Chicago who moved to Italy to open up an American Themed "Chicago Style" pizzeria. He could not get it to turn out right until he started importing his flour from his supplier back in Chicago.
 
Jan 11, 2014
12,331
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
I spent decades trying make my own pizza crust that had both an easy texture to work with and good flavor. Finally stumbled onto a recipe using all purpose flour and type 00 flour with a 24 hour cold fermentation. The flours and the cold fermentation worked. That and we bought a new oven with a Pizza setting that could go to 550°.

Our latest bread toy is a portable wood fired pizza oven, cooks the pizza in about a minute at 900°! Still learning and trying to figure out how to use it on the boat.

 
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TomY

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Jun 22, 2004
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Alden 38' Challenger yawl Rockport Harbor
I've baked hundreds of baguettes over many years. I love doing it and always see subtle differences in every batch.
Baguettes 5 .jpg


I suppose that's the challenge I enjoy; trying to perfect them. I never have but nobody ever complained in our house.

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Flour, yeast, water, salt(a little olive oil). That's it.

Kneading the dough (by hand), is one of my favorite steps. That, just like the mixture, will always be a little different to your touch.

And each rise is always a little different, twice in a bowl and then finally on a baking sheet. Even the depth and shape of the slice you make in the tight skin of the risen loaves changes the finished loaf.

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And then the olive oil you dip the first chunk, hot out of the oven, makes a difference.

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Oh yeah, boats! We have baked a few baguettes onboard. All you need is an airtight container of flour in a locker and stuff a few bags of yeast in it. You can make bread anytime. Our daughter used to make baguettes onboard. Boat Baguettes we called them mostly because of their size. Forming a baquette is an art.

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Flour, yeast, water, time. Isn't bread amazing!

MJ forming pulling baguettes.jpg
 
Jan 11, 2014
12,331
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
I've baked hundreds of baguettes over many years. I love doing it and always see subtle differences in every batch.
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I suppose that's the challenge I enjoy; trying to perfect them. I never have but nobody ever complained in our house.

View attachment 176189

Flour, yeast, water, salt(a little olive oil). That's it.

Kneading the dough (by hand), is one of my favorite steps. That, just like the mixture, will always be a little different to your touch.

And each rise is always a little different, twice in a bowl and then finally on a baking sheet. Even the depth and shape of the slice you make in the tight skin of the risen loaves changes the finished loaf.

View attachment 176190

And then the olive oil you dip the first chunk, hot out of the oven, makes a difference.

View attachment 176191

Oh yeah, boats! We have baked a few baguettes onboard. All you need is an airtight container of flour in a locker and stuff a few bags of yeast in it. You can make bread anytime. Our daughter used to make baguettes onboard. Boat Baguettes we called them mostly because of their size. Forming a baquette is an art.

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Flour, yeast, water, time. Isn't bread amazing!

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Bread Porn!!! :plus::beer: :thumbs up emoji:
 
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RoyS

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Jun 3, 2012
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Hunter 33 Steamboat Wharf, Hull, MA
I spent decades trying make my own pizza crust that had both an easy texture to work with and good flavor. Finally stumbled onto a recipe using all purpose flour and type 00 flour with a 24 hour cold fermentation. The flours and the cold fermentation worked. That and we bought a new oven with a Pizza setting that could go to 550°.
Well, now that you have my attention. Care to share your pizza dough recipe?
 
Jan 11, 2014
12,331
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Well, now that you have my attention. Care to share your pizza dough recipe?
Certainly. It was from a NY Times Food column. I don't think it is behind a pay wall.

 
Oct 19, 2017
7,824
O'Day 19 Littleton, NH
Tom, my wife and I are inspired by your daughter. Do you have a receipe? We are ready to start a baguette or two, but want to try your daughters technique.

Will report back on its success from our little cabin in the woods.

-Will (Dragonfly)
 
Feb 11, 2017
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former Tartan 30 New London, CT area
Without an oven, a bread machine is the way to go. The energy to do a 2# loaf will run a Gp27 (through an inverter) down to 50%. Problem comes at the end of the cycle if the loaf isn't quite done (as mentioned, flour varies). If you have an oven available, it's easy to put the loaf into the oven for 5 or 10 minutes. I haven't found a way to extend the bake time of a bread machine.
 

DArcy

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Feb 11, 2017
1,754
Islander Freeport 36 Ottawa
I have been using a bread machine at home but I'm following to see what works best on the boat. I tried a few recipes but have settled on a 50/50 white/whole wheat mix for toast and sandwich bread. It's good to know how much power a bread machine uses on battery so thanks Al.
I'd like to know Tom's recipe for baguettes as well to try on the boat.