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Mar 23, 2010
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Venture 25 NV, CA
Just bought a 71 Venture 25. This boat needs a lot of work, the mast has added rigging which I am removing to factory spec's. However the backstay line has no mounting point on the transom. The Mac 25 I previously owned had an attachment point on the transom, what gives and what am I missing?
 
Oct 22, 2008
3,502
- Telstar 28 Buzzards Bay
Could it be that the Venture 25 uses a split backstay setup, with a chainplate in each corner of the transom?? Many smaller sailboats use such a setup with a transom hung rudder that is tiller steered.

I believe this is a venture 25 and you can barely see the split backstay setup on it.

 
Oct 8, 2008
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MacGregor/Venture 25 Winthrop Harbor, IL Drummond Island,MI
I have a '75 V25. I kinda think it was added later, but I have a split backstay. To tighten the backstay, there is a sheet behind my right elbow(swivel block with cleat) that draws the adjuster(think thats what it is called) down, pulling the split backstay together,making it tighter.

Clear as mud?
 

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Oct 22, 2008
3,502
- Telstar 28 Buzzards Bay
Who's being a comedian??? If he's looking on the center of the transom, he could easily miss the chainplates in the corners of the transom.
 
Mar 23, 2010
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Venture 25 NV, CA
What I find are two eye-lets mounted to the top of the transom toward the corners. These are on top of the transom with only 3" square blocks under the fiberglass. Port side is older I'm thinking original. I found a diagram of a split backstay setup and see I need some additional equipment. Are those 3" blocks under the fiberglass adaquate?
The backstay line would reach either and I remember my Mac25 went to the starboard side. Thanks everyone
 
Oct 22, 2008
3,502
- Telstar 28 Buzzards Bay
Normally, on a split backstay boat, the backstay itself terminates well above the deck level, and either two shorter single pieces go up to meet it and the three pieces terminate on a triangular steel plate. Often, a piece with a sheave for each of the lowers rides on the two and has a block and tackle to adjust backstay tension.



Another method is that top piece has a block at the bottom and a single wire rope goes up and over the sheave and usually has a block and tackle on one side to adjust the backstay tension.

 
Oct 8, 2008
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MacGregor/Venture 25 Winthrop Harbor, IL Drummond Island,MI
Sailingdog, I was referring to ignoring the picture of the Admiral in the foreground to look at the backstay in the background:) or something like that:doh:
 
Oct 8, 2008
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MacGregor/Venture 25 Winthrop Harbor, IL Drummond Island,MI
I'm thinking that the original end of boom sheeting used those two eyelets to attach blocks for the mainsheet. My mainsheet is now on a traveler in front of the companionway. The backstay now uses those eyelets to attach flexible SS wire for the backstay and the 1/4" line which adjusts tension on the backstay(hard to see in the pic) it pulls on the center sheave of that 5 sheave adjuster to change tension(drawing it down).
 
May 23, 2007
1,306
Catalina Capri 22 Albany, Oregon
Make sure you include the safety wire mentioned at the bottom of the post. I've got one on my Capri 22; haven't had to "use" it but then I don't want to either!

FWIW, mine is rigged so the adjustment line is double ended - I can adjust from either side of the cockpit - kind of like a windward sheeting traveller - with cam cleats on the deck on either side.
 
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