hello can somebody learn me something about sailing with a asp on a 170 ? What's the behavior of the boat ? All remarks are wellcome
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Tommy Weaver
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The spinnaker on the 170 is easier than other boats because you don't have to worry about a pole. It takes a lot of practice to learn the best way to gybe. I usually bear off to almost dead downwind and before I gybe we start pulling the spinnaker around the forestay. If you gybe first the spinnaker will blow inside the forestay and you'll have to gybe back and start over. Once you get the spinnaker around then you can gybe. Our raising procedure is pretty simple. My crew gets everything ready as I raise the centerboard at least halfway up, maybe a little more. Next, my crew pulls the clew line to about 4 inches from the bowsprit block. The next step is to start pulling the halyard and raise as I grab the sheet and get the spinnaker flying. The crew then rolls up the jib, tidies up any loose lines and then we slide to the back of the boat and fly. I usually am on my knees in the back of the boat just in front of the tiller. I feel more balanced and comfortable there. The take down is just the reverse. Unroll the jib, grab the bottom of the spinnaker after I pull it in tight with the sheet, and then release the clew line and then release the halyard and stuff the spinnaker in the forward area. (Make sure you pull everything in under the jib sheet!) As the spinnaker is coming down I lower the centerboard and we're ready to round the mark and head upwind. One thing I try from time to time in light air is on the dead down-wind leg, we will pull the spinnaker around and I will hold the sheet out and go wing and wing. This works pretty well if you need to go by-the-lee a little. I think it is also faster to sail a straight line in the dead downwind leg rather than staying high and gybing a lot. Hope this hasn't been too long winded and I hope it helps.
The spinnaker on the 170 is easier than other boats because you don't have to worry about a pole. It takes a lot of practice to learn the best way to gybe. I usually bear off to almost dead downwind and before I gybe we start pulling the spinnaker around the forestay. If you gybe first the spinnaker will blow inside the forestay and you'll have to gybe back and start over. Once you get the spinnaker around then you can gybe. Our raising procedure is pretty simple. My crew gets everything ready as I raise the centerboard at least halfway up, maybe a little more. Next, my crew pulls the clew line to about 4 inches from the bowsprit block. The next step is to start pulling the halyard and raise as I grab the sheet and get the spinnaker flying. The crew then rolls up the jib, tidies up any loose lines and then we slide to the back of the boat and fly. I usually am on my knees in the back of the boat just in front of the tiller. I feel more balanced and comfortable there. The take down is just the reverse. Unroll the jib, grab the bottom of the spinnaker after I pull it in tight with the sheet, and then release the clew line and then release the halyard and stuff the spinnaker in the forward area. (Make sure you pull everything in under the jib sheet!) As the spinnaker is coming down I lower the centerboard and we're ready to round the mark and head upwind. One thing I try from time to time in light air is on the dead down-wind leg, we will pull the spinnaker around and I will hold the sheet out and go wing and wing. This works pretty well if you need to go by-the-lee a little. I think it is also faster to sail a straight line in the dead downwind leg rather than staying high and gybing a lot. Hope this hasn't been too long winded and I hope it helps.
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Ed Smith
ADD A SMALL BUCKET
I set up my spinnaker in a 6 Gallon plastic bucket so that as I pull on the halyard it comes out of the bucket and all lines were attached before I left the dock. When I bring the spinnaker down, it goes in the bucket. With the lid , the bucket is storage. I do run the spinnaker up and rinse and dry before closing it up for storage. Now when I get ready to go, everything is in the bucket except the Bowsprit. I picked the bucket up at Lowes for $3.65. I've been using it for 3 years now. Oh, this wasn't an original idea, I saw it in use on a Sailing School Keelboat that was used to teach the spinnaker. It's almost as easy as using a sock. Oh and I forgot to mention, I sail single-handed. Good luck.
I set up my spinnaker in a 6 Gallon plastic bucket so that as I pull on the halyard it comes out of the bucket and all lines were attached before I left the dock. When I bring the spinnaker down, it goes in the bucket. With the lid , the bucket is storage. I do run the spinnaker up and rinse and dry before closing it up for storage. Now when I get ready to go, everything is in the bucket except the Bowsprit. I picked the bucket up at Lowes for $3.65. I've been using it for 3 years now. Oh, this wasn't an original idea, I saw it in use on a Sailing School Keelboat that was used to teach the spinnaker. It's almost as easy as using a sock. Oh and I forgot to mention, I sail single-handed. Good luck.
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philippe lesage
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philippe lesage
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Tommy Thank you very much for the quick reply. I learned a lot. Do you often do club-races or so ?? What's the performance of your 170 ?? Here in Belgium, Europe I'm alone with my 170 so it's difficult to compare with somebody. To do some races, I adjusted the furling-jib. I removed the plastimo one and replaced it by an alluminium one of small yachts. That was a great improvement in windy situations. Also, we adjusted the mast-heeling far to yhe back so we can sail much sharper to the wind. A last adjustment was the installation of wire cables, so your compagnon can hook in and hang out. (sorry I don't know the english term)
Tommy Thank you very much for the quick reply. I learned a lot. Do you often do club-races or so ?? What's the performance of your 170 ?? Here in Belgium, Europe I'm alone with my 170 so it's difficult to compare with somebody. To do some races, I adjusted the furling-jib. I removed the plastimo one and replaced it by an alluminium one of small yachts. That was a great improvement in windy situations. Also, we adjusted the mast-heeling far to yhe back so we can sail much sharper to the wind. A last adjustment was the installation of wire cables, so your compagnon can hook in and hang out. (sorry I don't know the english term)
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Tommy Weaver
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I've raced the boat in 2 regattas and 10 club races this year. We were DFL in the first regatta (Dead ------- Last) and finshed a respectable 3rd (out of 10) in our division in the second. In the club races we finished anywhere from 3rd to 5th. The only boats ahead of us were Thistles and they are the best sailors in the club. My roller furler is a Harken and it works fine. I haven't played with the mast rake so I'm not sure how it would affect the boat, be careful not to get too much or you'll have a lot of weather helm. I don't understand what you mean with 'compagnon'. Is it a main or a jib adjustment?
I've raced the boat in 2 regattas and 10 club races this year. We were DFL in the first regatta (Dead ------- Last) and finshed a respectable 3rd (out of 10) in our division in the second. In the club races we finished anywhere from 3rd to 5th. The only boats ahead of us were Thistles and they are the best sailors in the club. My roller furler is a Harken and it works fine. I haven't played with the mast rake so I'm not sure how it would affect the boat, be careful not to get too much or you'll have a lot of weather helm. I don't understand what you mean with 'compagnon'. Is it a main or a jib adjustment?
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