Are we a big family , in the best meaning of the word? I always thought so! I met many new and very halpful people who wouldn't think twice if they could help you or just answer some simple questions or simply share their experiences related to sailing. I always did that with pleasure. Who does not want to talk about boats? Well, yeaterday I was in for a surprise and it made such an impact on me that I just had to share it with all of you!!! I just recently bought a used 1992 Hunter 30 in Florida (Hurricane Charley damage)and had it tracked to Toronto, Canada. There were some systems installed in the boat in the configuration that only the installer would know. So I managed to find the address of the previous owner, called him, and in the most polight form and voice I asked him if he would be so kind to answer some of my questions regarding some of the systems? Gues what? In the rude voice, I got a very quick answer- "I am not interested" - click of the phone (hang up). And this was the end of my hopes for a friendly conversation!!! I am just thinking if I should post the name of this "friendly" chap? WOuld any one of you behave like this? What do you guys think? Your opinions? Frustrated Andre
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J.B. Dyer
There Everywhere
Andre, sorry about that. There are Horses A#$'s no matter where you go, you can't get away from them. For the most part, sailors are family and most will bend over backwards to help. As to posting the guy's name, I wouldn't bother, the folks around him know what he is about, besides, he just might have been having a bad day when you called, but then again, maybe not!!
Andre, sorry about that. There are Horses A#$'s no matter where you go, you can't get away from them. For the most part, sailors are family and most will bend over backwards to help. As to posting the guy's name, I wouldn't bother, the folks around him know what he is about, besides, he just might have been having a bad day when you called, but then again, maybe not!!
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Dan McGuire
Don't Post His Name
Don't post his name. It will accomplish nothing. In general, those who post here are good decent people who want no more than to help, have a question or want to share their experiences.
Don't post his name. It will accomplish nothing. In general, those who post here are good decent people who want no more than to help, have a question or want to share their experiences.
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Andre K
you are right guys
such is life, there are good people and there are "door knobs" everywhere. Some of the best friendships we make is because of sailing, and there is an unbealieavable camaradery out there on the water , but oaccasionally there is a "black sheep"... Somehow I thing that the King Neptune has his way of treating such people one day....
such is life, there are good people and there are "door knobs" everywhere. Some of the best friendships we make is because of sailing, and there is an unbealieavable camaradery out there on the water , but oaccasionally there is a "black sheep"... Somehow I thing that the King Neptune has his way of treating such people one day....
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a poor old sailor
A Hurricane Victim
Though I disagree with the way he handled it, I can believe that he is disappointed and disgruntled regarding the loss of his boat. He may even view you as a vulture, preying on the devasted here in Florida. Charlie was a compact and powerful storm. Up until two hours before landfall it was forecast to strike a direct hit on my boat, and I had already kissed her goodbye. Then, Charlie veered right and hit an area that many had fled to for safety. The fury of that storm was quite a shock to those that happened to be in its path, repairs are still being made, financial recovery is slow, and the psychological wounds of many may never heal. I would forgive him for his terseness, he may otherwise be a very congenial guy. That being said, if I found my dreamboat at a bargain with repairable damage, you'd better believe that I'd snap it up - I just wouldn't expect the previous owner to be happy about it.
Though I disagree with the way he handled it, I can believe that he is disappointed and disgruntled regarding the loss of his boat. He may even view you as a vulture, preying on the devasted here in Florida. Charlie was a compact and powerful storm. Up until two hours before landfall it was forecast to strike a direct hit on my boat, and I had already kissed her goodbye. Then, Charlie veered right and hit an area that many had fled to for safety. The fury of that storm was quite a shock to those that happened to be in its path, repairs are still being made, financial recovery is slow, and the psychological wounds of many may never heal. I would forgive him for his terseness, he may otherwise be a very congenial guy. That being said, if I found my dreamboat at a bargain with repairable damage, you'd better believe that I'd snap it up - I just wouldn't expect the previous owner to be happy about it.
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patrick
Agree, don't post his name
To start with what good would it do you. That said I agree that "They're Everywhere" as JB said, but, from all the expieriences I've had since taking up sailing. The best group of people I've ever been involved with, is the sailing community. Sailors have helped me out in every conceiveably way, from mentors who showed me how to sail, to help with repairs, to invitation for beach potlucks and fun, and on and on. Maybe I've just been lucky, I've never met a rude sailor. A few stinkpotters I've come across haven't been, shall we say, great to be around, but, even in that group they're generally helpful and fun. Hope this last bit doesn't get me in hot water, but, I was just out yesterday and had a powerboater change course three times just to cut in front of me and bounce me with his wake. dave..
To start with what good would it do you. That said I agree that "They're Everywhere" as JB said, but, from all the expieriences I've had since taking up sailing. The best group of people I've ever been involved with, is the sailing community. Sailors have helped me out in every conceiveably way, from mentors who showed me how to sail, to help with repairs, to invitation for beach potlucks and fun, and on and on. Maybe I've just been lucky, I've never met a rude sailor. A few stinkpotters I've come across haven't been, shall we say, great to be around, but, even in that group they're generally helpful and fun. Hope this last bit doesn't get me in hot water, but, I was just out yesterday and had a powerboater change course three times just to cut in front of me and bounce me with his wake. dave..
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Herb Parsons
Hard Feelings
I agree, he's probably hurt that he lost his boat. On the other hand, as much as I like mine, if one were to go away, I'd be thrilled to know it's being fixed up. I heard of on guy buying small damaged boats on eBay, and turning them into playhouses for kids!! Probably not a bad idea, but not a fate I want for one of MY boats!
I agree, he's probably hurt that he lost his boat. On the other hand, as much as I like mine, if one were to go away, I'd be thrilled to know it's being fixed up. I heard of on guy buying small damaged boats on eBay, and turning them into playhouses for kids!! Probably not a bad idea, but not a fate I want for one of MY boats!
You never know what that boat represents to him..
he may have had to give up his boat for financial reasons. Maybe it represents a very painfull loss, and your call just reminded him of that. Or perhaps you called at a time this guy had just had an argument with wife, kid. I agree sailors usually are helpfull. Your time of joy may have been his time of sorrow. Give the guy some slack without really knowing why he behaved so rudely. abe
he may have had to give up his boat for financial reasons. Maybe it represents a very painfull loss, and your call just reminded him of that. Or perhaps you called at a time this guy had just had an argument with wife, kid. I agree sailors usually are helpfull. Your time of joy may have been his time of sorrow. Give the guy some slack without really knowing why he behaved so rudely. abe
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Andre K
I did, I let it go!
I only let it go because of you all! You have been a great bunch of people nad a realy good family... One can't judge a book by just one %$#@&^%* page, when everything else is priceless!
I only let it go because of you all! You have been a great bunch of people nad a realy good family... One can't judge a book by just one %$#@&^%* page, when everything else is priceless!
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