Anyone recognize this Roller Furler (Make/Model)

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Mar 27, 2012
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Seaward Fox Washougal WA
The line on my furler is fouling everytime and there is to much line on it. When stowed with three to four wraps, it still has about three feet of line on the drum. I think it has 3/8 line on it and very hard on the hands. Would like to see what the manufacturer reccomends, but there are no stickers or stamps on the system. Anyone recognize or have experience with this furler?
 

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Feb 26, 2004
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Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
I can't identify it. It appears that your fairlead may be too far aft, 'cuz it looks like it leads to the top of the drum, consider moving the fairlead forward to another stanchion and centering it, getting the line to the center of the drum, or just lower it on the stanchion where it currently is. Also consider simply removing some line from the drum so that when the sail is unfurled you only have two wraps on the drum - try those first. We use 3/8" furling line on our 34 foot boat and it works fine, sometimes use gloves but not always needed. Good luck.
 
Mar 27, 2012
312
Seaward Fox Washougal WA
Thanks Stu,
It does look like it is feeding the top of the drum. I need to look at that closer!
 
Mar 27, 2012
312
Seaward Fox Washougal WA
When completely unfurled, it put's about four or five wraps around the outside of the bars protecting the drum. It makes it a complete bear to bring back in.
 
Feb 20, 2011
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Island Packet 35 Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
Perhaps you could de-core some of the line that's on the drum?
 
Mar 27, 2012
312
Seaward Fox Washougal WA
Perhaps you could de-core some of the line that's on the drum?
I have read where some guys have done that, and I may have to at some point. Even if I get the uneccessary wraps off and the manufacturer suggests the diameter line I am currently using, I will have to do something like that.
 

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Sep 22, 2006
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Catalina, Luger C-27, Adventure 30 Marina del Rey
Your's looks like my old Reefer furler. I have 1/4" line on it how and I want to step it up to 5/16 by removing 20' of the core. The problem that I had with mine fouling is that the rope guide was twisting around around the spool. I had to tie it in place to the pulpit until I can fix a clamp. I have the parts diagram to it if you would like.
 
Mar 27, 2012
312
Seaward Fox Washougal WA
Your's looks like my old Reefer furler. I have 1/4" line on it how and I want to step it up to 5/16 by removing 20' of the core. The problem that I had with mine fouling is that the rope guide was twisting around around the spool. I had to tie it in place to the pulpit until I can fix a clamp. I have the parts diagram to it if you would like.
That would be great. Can you attach or PM it to me?
 
Jun 8, 2004
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-na -NA Anywhere USA
It appears that is either a Schaefer, Furlex or Snapfurl or one of the three I think.

The first wrong with the system is the size line for the furling line. Most on this style boat would be 1/4 or the next size up which I think is 5/16. I would never take the core out of any line as it will weaken it.

The next thing you need to look at is the direction of the line exiting the furler itself. You can make adjustments on some or simply run it out on the side because it it is being pinched when trying to furl the sail back in will create issues. Also the lead block/fiarlead should be postioned where the line will come out straight at an angle. Finally, 3-4 wraps max in the spool with the sail furled and the jib sheets either 1 or 2 times wrapped around the sail when furled.
 
Mar 27, 2012
312
Seaward Fox Washougal WA
It appears that is either a Schaefer, Furlex or Snapfurl or one of the three I think.

The first wrong with the system is the size line for the furling line. Most on this style boat would be 1/4 or the next size up which I think is 5/16. I would never take the core out of any line as it will weaken it.

The next thing you need to look at is the direction of the line exiting the furler itself. You can make adjustments on some or simply run it out on the side because it it is being pinched when trying to furl the sail back in will create issues. Also the lead block/fiarlead should be postioned where the line will come out straight at an angle. Finally, 3-4 wraps max in the spool with the sail furled and the jib sheets either 1 or 2 times wrapped around the sail when furled.
I stand corrected, as I believe it does have 1/4 line on it now. I looked at the way it is rigged and it does feed the center of the drum. So Dave, your saying it should have 3-4 wraps on the spool with two wraps of the sheets? I was hoping to have no wraps on the drum with the sheet wraps to save some room on the drum. Should I go down in diameter from 1/4 inch and get some good gloves :bang:
 
Jun 8, 2004
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When I looked at the photos, it shows four shiny upright guards surrounding the lower drum. When the line exits from the drum, if hitting any of the uprights will create tension if the line is lead aft to the fairlead. The line from the drum should have nothing to interfer with the travel.

When I set up the furler with the sail around the extrusion, I had 4-5 wraps in the drum and 1-2 wraps (jib sheet) around the jib. The ones around the jib is to help prevent wind from catching the sail trying to force it out. The few in the drum is for some addition but this system has worked well for me for many years with various style furling systems

If you want to discuss further, then email me with your phone number and I will call . Jus t remind me that you are 3 hurs behind me so I can call you at a decent hour.

crazy dave
 
Mar 27, 2012
312
Seaward Fox Washougal WA
When I looked at the photos, it shows four shiny upright guards surrounding the lower drum. When the line exits from the drum, if hitting any of the uprights will create tension if the line is lead aft to the fairlead. The line from the drum should have nothing to interfer with the travel.

When I set up the furler with the sail around the extrusion, I had 4-5 wraps in the drum and 1-2 wraps (jib sheet) around the jib. The ones around the jib is to help prevent wind from catching the sail trying to force it out. The few in the drum is for some addition but this system has worked well for me for many years with various style furling systems

If you want to discuss further, then email me with your phone number and I will call . Jus t remind me that you are 3 hurs behind me so I can call you at a decent hour.

crazy dave
Awesome, Thanks. I will take you up on that after holiday. We are taking a week long cruise next monday. The line doesn't hit the guards and unfurls nicely. The problem is when unfurled all the way. There is so much line, it fills the drum and then it wraps around those guards on the outside about four times (we keep as much tension on the sheets as possible to form a tight furl). So when I go to furl the jib, it's like pulling up the anchor from the Titanic and causing uneccessary wear on the lines. I am just dragging the line across four square edges. Im sure you get the picture. Anyway, thanks for the offer!!!!!! Have a great 4th!
 
Mar 27, 2012
312
Seaward Fox Washougal WA
Just replaced the 5/16 line with 1/4 but was to windy to unfurl at slip. Wish I had the time to try on water but had other commitments. Update to come. The 5/16 was swollen when compared to the new 5/16 line. I know 1/4 will suck on the hands but should be a lot easier to furl and work properly so should be better than the old 5/16. Fingers crossed.
 
Mar 27, 2012
312
Seaward Fox Washougal WA
Oh yeah, I took the furled apart and there was no stamp, logo, patent, model #, or anything. Showed the guys at West Marine pictures of it and they didn't have a clue!!!!!! Just in case any of you were wondering.
 
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