Anchor winch

Dec 28, 2016
37
Beneteau Oceanis 400 Auckland
Hi


Regarding the anchor winch. Will the chain hold on the anchor winch alone?


I don't like the idea of simply using the teeth of the anchor winch alone as the securing point. However, I'm not sure how else best to secure it.


Whats the best practise here?
 

jviss

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Feb 5, 2004
7,089
Tartan 3800 20 Westport, MA
I think most people do it that way. I also believe best practice would be to secure the chain with a chain stopper, and to rig a snubber, a length of three-strand nylon rope with a chain hook on the chain, and secured to a cleat on deck.
 

NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
3,145
Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
Make sure you do not put a load on the windlass.... use a snubber to take the load or you will break windlass
 
May 17, 2004
5,695
Beneteau Oceanis 37 Havre de Grace
I agree with Jviss. We just leave ours on the windlass, although that’s certainly not recommended by the windlass manufacturer. The risk is less about the chain slipping on the teeth but more about the strain it puts on the windlass mechanism. A snubber run to a cleat is better for taking the strain off the windlass, and also the length of nylon will stretch more than chain. The stretch puts less stress on the boat and reduces the chances of the anchor getting broken free.

I am curious as to whether anyone has ever had a windlass fail when not using a snubber. The way our bow roller and cleats are laid out we would need a bridle rather than just a one line snubber.
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
23,216
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Not personally but have seen the problem happen to other owners. Usually not the stop for afternoon lunch, but the overnight when the gale shows up. Loosens the winch or damages the gears.
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
23,216
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
What jviss said about tying the chain off is the way to go.
 

NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
3,145
Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
The shock load of the chain agains the windlass would beat it up and probably pull anchor up. I made my own bridle.... 2, 30 foot each with 12 inch eye both attached to a chain hook bought at wm. Works great!
 
Oct 29, 2016
1,929
Hunter 41 DS Port Huron
I always hook the chain with a snubber tied off to a cleat in the anchor locker, then release the strain on the windless by feeding out a bit of chain, reverse the process to bring the anchor up.
 
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jviss

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Feb 5, 2004
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Tartan 3800 20 Westport, MA
It had always been my intention to make a three-strand nylon snubber bridle, but I never got to it. My current snubber is made of 3/4" three-strand, I think. I spliced it to a galvanized chain hook, and whipped the other end. It's about 15 or 20'. I think I often don't have enough snubber deployed, but it seems to do the job, in that we don't ever feel a "snatch," even in rough conditions.

You have to make sure you have enough slack in the chain between the boat and snubber hook. Let the chain droop in a big loop, into the water.

A chain stopper is a piece of hardware that is very strong, and is attached to the deck in a very secure fashion, similarly to a cleat. It will potentially take the entire mooring load. There are several variants, including ones that are like ratchets, i.e., will allow chain to come aboard, and will catch it going out. I guess there's a way to keep it released when letting chain out, but I am not familiar with them.

After we've rigged the snubber, we wrap the chain around our mooring cleat; it seems to "catch," or jam on this. Sometimes we'll secure it with a small diameter line, a "nip."

Here's a good example, and a good article on this:


http://commutercruiser.com/7-tips-for-using-a-snubber/

Here's a couple of chain stoppers:
 
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