Thanks, everyone, for your participation. And, thanks to Brian Sheehan of Fortress for venturing into this opinionated subject. I learned a lot and I'm sure many others did too. Great info for anchor setting, Brian. I think some of us were too into the hyper toss-and-tug method of setting. Good for you and Fortress.I'm not sure if Brian will have the time to sign in and answer any more. He is heading out and Fortress is signing off for the holidays. So, guys, remember the folks who came to us and participated in these forums and continue to treat them in the classy way you do. Happy holidays and a great 2005 for all of you and to our Guest Expert Forum Moderators. Rick D.