All line halyard kit

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Steve

Has anyone installed the all line halyard kit from Catalina Direct? Would like to replace my aging halyards but I am not sure if I should get the new all line kit or just replace my existing line-cable halyards that are currently on the boat. Another thought was to go with internal lines as well. ???? Any advice would be appreciated.
 
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Dave Slepoy

new lines

new halyards are real nice after you deal with old ones for a time. inspect the shives when you go to replace the lines, mine on my 28 were shot to say the least.
 
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Bayard Gross

Regarding C-22 Halyards

For the C-22, unless you switch to internal halyards, I think the wire-rope halyards are superior to all line halyards and the doubled-eye wire with line knotted to it as originally supplied by Catalina. By wire rope I mean the wire and rope spliced together into a relatively smooth progression which helps to avoid that inevitable hang up that occurs on the amst head light and spreaders especially at the knot attaching the rope to the wire as originally equipped. I feel this way because there are two sheaves in the mast truck for both the main and jib halyards. This means the halyards have only at most a ninety-degree turn at each sheave that is good for wire halyards. The wire halyards are very fast for dropping the sails, and I think faster than all line halyards. Also, with wire there is ZERO stretch and ZERO Creep. On my C-22, I installed Yale wire rope that came with 40 feet of 1/8" wire spliced to forty feet of 3/8" low stretch rope. As the mast is about 27 feet (I can't remember exactly), I think you could use a wire rope with 30 feet of 1/8" wire and 30 feet of 5/16" rope as offered by West Marine. However, I think 3/8" rope is better. As the rope on my set up, which leads aft to the cockpit, is only about six feet locked into the rope clutch with the main raised, issues of creep and stretch in that line are nearly non-existent. I do not know if the internal halyard kit offered by Catalina Direct uses two sheaves or just one as I suspect. If it uses one, then all line halyards would be my choice as the then nearly 180-degree turn would be rough on wire halyards. Further, all line internal halyards should do less damage than wire halyards to any light and antenna wires inside the mast. Internal halyards will promote a smoother and better air flow to the main that in my opinion makes their installation valuable. However, before this particular enhancement, I would install a backstay adjuster, a good boom topping lift system, a multiple purchase outhaul, a good vang of at least four to one purchase and get that relatively inexpensive full batten loose footed main from Catalina Direct. If you decide to use the wire rope, you can address any questions you might have regarding their installation to this web site where I or I am sure someone else can advise you.
 
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Brad Alston

Converted to All Line

Steve, There are pluses and minuses for either installation...so it may come down to personal preference. The reason I went to all line was that I was tired of the "meat hooks" appearing along the wire rope. The all line halyards are a bit quieter on the mast for external installations. The all line also means a little bit of weight saved. The line provided in the Catalina Direct kit is excellent and has little stretch. I have been happy with the installation and am glad I made the switch. Best Wishes, Brad Alston s/v Worthless Crew 1972 C-22 SK
 
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John

Pay Attention to the Sheaves

Check the sheave size on the 22. I believe the kit from CD gives you 1 1/2" sheeves designed to handle 5/16" halyard, whereas my 25 came stock with 2" sheeves designed to handle wire. I 'think' its the same on the 22. The 1 1/2" sheaves from CD will work, but you have to file any sharp edges off the masthead to avoid wearing the halyard. 2" sheeves that handle 5/16" rope halyard are not widely available. There is a place in Long Island NY, Bellpat Marine (631) 286-8368, that will make them for you. I know I lot of people have ordered them, including myself, and they work great. No filing of the masthead needed. I don't run my lines back to the cockpit, so I ordered the sheaves and some 5/16" halyard from SailNet to lower my cost of conversion to less the $100.
 
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