Albin Vega Design Characteristics ???

mocap1 · Apr 7, 2004

Per "Skene's Elements of Yacht Design" by Francis Kinney:

" Next to beam it is one of the most important factors contributing to safety. High freeboard in a design provides a greater range of stability, because the edge of the deck will not be heeled under the water until a much greater angle is reached. In sailboats this increases the power to carry sail. Another obvious advantage is the increased room inside the hull. And the deck will be drier, to. But like everything else in this world you pay for what you get, so there is a disadvantage-increased wind resistance when sailing on the wind."

Something he doesn't mention is that low freeboard makes a boat easier to manuever at low speeds, under power or sail, in strong winds. There are also second order effects on weight, which affect other things.

Remember, boat design is a series of compromises, and the measure of a designers success is how well he made the compromises for a particular mission, i.e. the purposes for which the boat is to be used, and by whom. Per Brohall did a good job with the Vega.

I don't see any connection between low freeboard and being lower in the water, unless it's a question of definition, and you are not referring to draft.

Mort

s_demont · Apr 22, 2004

Hi,

Next week I'm moving my Vega (#2947) from Alameda, CA to its new home in Seattle. I'll be keeping her on the hard for a few months to do a long-awaited paint job (I can't believe I've had my Vega for nearly seven years). Can anyone recommend to me where I should start, i.e. cockpit before deck or the other way around or does it matter; deck before topsides?

Steve DeMont
"Erendira"
Vega 2947

stacey94702 · Apr 22, 2004

Hello Steve,
I don't have any advice for painting for you, but
rather a question about your route north. I'm
planning on taking the same trip next Summer and
havn't decided whether to have it trucked, motor up
the coast or sail off shore. Which way are you doing
it? I have my doubts about that little diesel making
it's way against wind and current if I hug the coast.
Any info would be great. Thanks.
Stacey Murphy

tjelle1946 · Apr 22, 2004

Hi Steve--I just completed a Rhodes 19' day sailer--inside out--first I
pressure washed, cleaned and rinsed well. Then I bought marine enamel and
gave three coats making sure the temperature is warm enough. I used roller
and brush and lots of ventilation--you can take a trip on this paint. I
have had many nice compliments re work--it does look good and the paint
should last a long time. Sanding--I used 120 grit--to take off the oxide
like dust--then rinse with warm water--must be very clean--no detergents at
this time. jorgen

s_demont · Apr 22, 2004

Hi Stacey,

I'm having her trucked up ($2000.00). I wanted to sail her up but couldn't plan it around wwwwwork and school. I just want to get her up here so I can stop moping around the house and driving my significant other nuts.

I was thinking if I were to sail her to Seattle, I'd probably steer away from sailing directly up the cost, and try to keep the wind on the beam as much as possible so that I wouldn't be beating into the wind too much, and, maybe, it would be a smoother ride.

Steve

Stacey Murphy stacey94702@... wrote:
Hello Steve,
I don't have any advice for painting for you, but
rather a question about your route north. I'm
planning on taking the same trip next Summer and
havn't decided whether to have it trucked, motor up
the coast or sail off shore. Which way are you doing
it? I have my doubts about that little diesel making
it's way against wind and current if I hug the coast.
Any info would be great. Thanks.
Stacey Murphy

s_demont · Apr 22, 2004

Hi Jorghans,

Thanks. A friend of mine painted his Rhodes 19 a couple years ago. It turned out pretty nice. I think he used a two-part polyurethane.

Yeah, I've been reading up on the prep, and I'm getting myself prepared to be patient enough to do a thorough prep job. I decided to use Interlux Brightside single-part polyurethane, probably Flag Blue with a white deck/cockpit.

Did you do the hull first of the deck? I'm thinking that it would be better to do the deck and cockpit before I start on the hull.

What kind of filters did you use for your ventilator mask?

Steve

Jorghans jorghans@... wrote:
Hi Steve--I just completed a Rhodes 19' day sailer--inside out--first I
pressure washed, cleaned and rinsed well. Then I bought marine enamel and
gave three coats making sure the temperature is warm enough. I used roller
and brush and lots of ventilation--you can take a trip on this paint. I
have had many nice compliments re work--it does look good and the paint
should last a long time. Sanding--I used 120 grit--to take off the oxide
like dust--then rinse with warm water--must be very clean--no detergents at
this time. jorgen

tjelle1946 · Apr 22, 2004

Those were my colors also. I used a large ventilation fan while doing the
under deck part--that was the worst. Yes, i cleaned the inside and outside
and then started in the inside first-then covered the cockpit with a small
tarp after the deck was dry, then the hull, then the bottom. I used the
green masking tape for the water line and I must say--it is perfect.
jorgen--good luck--ps I painted outside not in shed.

vega1860 · Apr 23, 2004

Aloha Steve,

We did Lealea a few years ago. First was three days of prep work (Three of us working ten hours a day)on the entire boat. As the gelcoat was in good shape after sanding, we did not prime the topsides before laying on Awlgrip with brush and roller, two coats, one in the morning, the second late afternoon. Next we had the deck and cockpit sprayed with primer, then two coats of finish. Next day we painted the boot and cove stripes and had the name repainted on the transom. The next weekend, after the boat was back in her slip, we applied the nonskid. It came out beautifully

Malama pono,

Chuck

Stephen DeMont s_demont@... wrote:

s_demont · Apr 27, 2004

Thanks, Chuck.

That gives a good timeline to follow. I'll be working on her on the weekends. I figure I can get Erendira painted in about three to four weekends. But... The list of things I want to do while she is out of the water grows:
-Install the tiller pilot that I've had for the last 2.5 years
-Install the fixed-mount GPS that I've had for the last 2 years
-Install the stereo system that I've had for the last 3 years
-Install a new head and holding tank that I've been wanting to do forever
-Install a shower system with water heater (in the cockpit) for Debi

I figure if I don't do this stuff while the boat is on the hard, it won't get done when she goes back in the water. Hey, can't wait to get started.

Malama pono,
Steve

vega1860@... wrote:
Aloha Steve,

We did Lealea a few years ago. First was three days of prep work (Three of us working ten hours a day)on the entire boat. As the gelcoat was in good shape after sanding, we did not prime the topsides before laying on Awlgrip with brush and roller, two coats, one in the morning, the second late afternoon. Next we had the deck and cockpit sprayed with primer, then two coats of finish. Next day we painted the boot and cove stripes and had the name repainted on the transom. The next weekend, after the boat was back in her slip, we applied the nonskid. It came out beautifully

Malama pono,

Chuck

Stephen DeMont s_demont@... wrote:

s_demont · May 14, 2004

Chuck,

When you painted your Vega's deck, did you use a flattening agent to cut the gloss?

Stevevega1860@... wrote:
Aloha Steve,

We did Lealea a few years ago. First was three days of prep work (Three of us working ten hours a day)on the entire boat. As the gelcoat was in good shape after sanding, we did not prime the topsides before laying on Awlgrip with brush and roller, two coats, one in the morning, the second late afternoon. Next we had the deck and cockpit sprayed with primer, then two coats of finish. Next day we painted the boot and cove stripes and had the name repainted on the transom. The next weekend, after the boat was back in her slip, we applied the nonskid. It came out beautifully

Malama pono,

Chuck

Stephen DeMont s_demont@... wrote: