Aftermarket stern gland question

Sep 4, 2009
4
First time posters - we're the proud owners of Viking #3361. We're finishing up the spring overhaul (including a rebuild of the combi thanks Steve!), and we have a question about our stern gland to pose to the wisdom of the list as far as we can tell by looking at some old newsletters, a previous owner may have replaced the stern gland around 1985 with one he bought from Vegatillbehor. We have some pictures here (Log In or Sign Up to View).

This appears to be some kind of oil seal. There are two holes in the top, one with a hose barb (and a hose that terminates near the top of a lazarette, with an open end, possibly to add oil), and another that's plugged with a knurled bolt (possibly to vent air when filling with oil?). On the inside, as far as we can see without pulling it apart, is a thick gasket of some elastomer, extending maybe an inch along the shaft, and then what could be a lip seal (or maybe an o-ring); presumably there's another of these further down the shaft.

Does anyone recognize this? Have one? Know how to replace the seals? Know what routine maintenance it needs? What kind of oil/grease?

Any information very much appreciated!
Susan and Evan
 
Oct 19, 2019
921
Albin Vega 27 Limerick
Hi, I ordered a stern gland kit from steve birch - installed by a
mechanic. I think the hosepipe that you mention is for a gravity fed
oilsupply from a bottle in cockit locker (lazarette) down to the barb
fitting on the stern gland. That is the setup that I have. I use
chainsaw oil in a small bottle which drains over a few months down to
the fitting. I can post a link to some photos if you like.
I use chainsaw oil as it is more viscous than engine lube oil.
John V1447

John Kinsella
Mathematics and Statistics Dept
University of Limerick

Phone 0035361202148
Web jkcray.maths.ul.ie
 
Oct 31, 2019
230
Hey John, just wondering where that oil goes? Into the lake/sea? If
so, may be a good reason to change it out to a water lubricated system.
Trevor (Mystic Rose 2915)



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Hi, I ordered a stern gland kit from steve birch - installed by a
mechanic. I think the hosepipe that you mention is for a gravity fed
oilsupply from a bottle in cockit locker (lazarette) down to the barb
fitting on the stern gland. That is the setup that I have. I use
chainsaw oil in a small bottle which drains over a few months down to
the fitting. I can post a link to some photos if you like.
I use chainsaw oil as it is more viscous than engine lube oil.
John V1447

John Kinsella
Mathematics and Statistics Dept
University of Limerick

Phone 0035361202148
Web jkcray.maths.ul.ie On May 3, 2010, at 2:30 PM, "evan112358" evan112358@...
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Oct 31, 2019
58
Good question Trevor, that has been a concern of mine also.

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Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 11:18:22 AM
Subject: RE: [AlbinVega] Aftermarket stern gland question


Hey John, just wondering where that oil goes? Into the lake/sea? If
so, may be a good reason to change it out to a water lubricated system.
Trevor (Mystic Rose 2915)

From: AlbinVega@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:AlbinVega@yahoogrou ps.com] On
Behalf Of John.Kinsella
Sent: May 3, 2010 10:40 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogrou ps.com
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Aftermarket stern gland question

Hi, I ordered a stern gland kit from steve birch - installed by a
mechanic. I think the hosepipe that you mention is for a gravity fed
oilsupply from a bottle in cockit locker (lazarette) down to the barb
fitting on the stern gland. That is the setup that I have. I use
chainsaw oil in a small bottle which drains over a few months down to
the fitting. I can post a link to some photos if you like.
I use chainsaw oil as it is more viscous than engine lube oil.
John V1447

John Kinsella
Mathematics and Statistics Dept
University of Limerick

Phone 0035361202148
Web jkcray.maths. ul.ie

On May 3, 2010, at 2:30 PM, "evan112358" evan112358@yahoo. com
mailto:evan112358% 40yahoo.com wrote:
 
Oct 19, 2019
921
Albin Vega 27 Limerick
Hi Trevor,
I've seen this point raised on the forum in the past.
The chainsaw oil will find its way to the lake/sea I'm afraid -
indirectly via the bilge where it eventually goes.
I do clean the bilge out - with babies nappies/diapers occasionally but
have been known to pump the bilge out too. :-[

But maybe 1/4 liter (1/2 pint) in 3 months isn't that big a problem?

2-stroke outboard (and occasionally inboard) petrol engines are probably
greater offenders?

(Their lube oil finds its way to the lake/sea also - although as an
aerosol maybe not so bad?)

Please line up to beat me up... :)

John

V1447 Breakaway

On 5/3/2010 7:18 PM, Trevor Leech (CLCYR) wrote:7
 
Feb 13, 2010
528
If there is a concern about oil going into the water use cooking oil for
lubrication. Doesn't hurt the environment as far as I know. I use it to
lubricate the head and if it works for that it should lube the
bearing. Beats the heck out of water. Even 4 stroke outboards are
going to leak a little oil as they wear. Doug

Douglas Pollard Albin Vega Sealegs 2225
John Kinsella wrote:
 
Oct 19, 2019
921
Albin Vega 27 Limerick
Hi.
So my boat ends up smelling like a fast-food joint? :)

To be serious, I hadn't considered cooking oil.

I did find that regular engine oil was "sucked down" too fast in hot
weather when engine was run at high revs.

I'd expect that cooking oil would be even less viscous?

Maybe I'll try used Kentucky Fried Chicken waste fat...

Eh, no....

John
 
Jun 7, 2009
18
I had a worn shaft on a previous yacht that had a conventional packed stuffing/grease stern gland. When the dripping got too great I fitted a Volvo rubber (UK definition) stern gland. It forms a good seal on the shaft - fortunately for me on a non-worn section - and is water lubricated. It requires a squeeze after launch to display any air. Will I think last 5 years and no maintenance or leaks. Was informed by agent that many new yachts are fitting. See https://vault2.secured-url.com/volspec/parts.php?manf=1 for details of sizes available.
I have an oil seal stern gland at present.
EdV1886

To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
From: vegatern@...
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 03:11:37 +0000
Subject: [AlbinVega] Re: Aftermarket stern gland question




This is an option that keeps the bilge dusty (unless it rains and then it comes in through the cockpit lockers) and the boat doesn't smell like french fries. PYI Inc. | PSS Shaft Seal

Craig Tern #1519