Affordable TV antenna

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May 2, 2008
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S2 9.2C 1980 St. Leonard (Chesapeake Bay), MD
I'm trying to find an economical, low profile TV antenna that I can use on-board while anchored. Because of my location I will need something that will draw a signal from at least 50 miles. Does anyone have any recommendations or experience that would be helpful to me.
 
Jun 4, 2004
292
Hunter 49 123
UFO by Dantronics (TX109680). Not cheap... In Pasadena, MD I am getting DC/NVA, Baltimore, Delmarva and recently Philly. 55 ft of the water....... YMMV
 
May 24, 2004
7,164
CC 30 South Florida
An omnidirectional anntena installed up the mast should be able to receive signals from 50 miles away and are relatively inexpensive.
 

RECESS

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Dec 20, 2003
1,505
Pearson 323 . St. Mary's Georgia
I met a harbor master that takes care of a marina in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan for 6 months of the year and is a musician the other 6 months in the Keys. He also had a cable company most of his professional life. He showed me an HD antenna he built. It was a flat bar of aluminum that was bent round and then bolted to a piece of resin to keep the ends from touching. You then attach a 300 ohm to 75 ohm adapter from each side of the aluminum and screw on the cable to the other side. Hoist it up the back stay with a line hanging down to secure it.

Spectacular HD reception. I need to get busy building mine. We motor sailed from Panama City to White City and spent a night chatting.

Cost should be under $50 with not a whole lot of assembly to do. The hardest part of the deal is finding something the right roundness to bend the aluminum around to get the round shape.
 

RichH

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Feb 14, 2005
4,773
Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
ditto, the Dantronics UFO

However, before I started using the UFO I used a simple DIY "6-66" antenna and which worked rather well for almost all of the Chesapeake:

take thin copper or aluminum 1/4" dia tubing 66" long and bend into a circle of 72" circumference with an exact 6" gap between the ends of the loop (tubing + 6" gap = 72" circumference or ~23" dia.), use a piece of rubber hose to keep the 6" gap fixed/open, to each end of the bent 'circle of tube' drill a small hole and with screws connect old fashioned 'flatwire' VHF antenna wire, add the appropriate 'transformer' - 300 ohm to the connection to your TV.
With your flag halyard .. raise the 6-66 so that its level to the horizon at the bottom of your spreader but not touching the rigging or the mast. Omnidirectional & Works well for both VHF and UHF and should work well for the 'new digital format'.

Cost about $10.00 + transformer.
 
Sep 5, 2007
689
MacGregor 26X Rochester
Those loop antennas were marketed under the name "Boatenna", and if memory serves, you had to put it together. Not much more work to roll your own, IMO. You do have to use 300 ohm twin-lead, though, or a Balun transformer to convert to 75 ohm coax.

The problem with them, I would think, is that most digital TV is now in the UHF band, making the hoop much too big for the shorter wavelengths of UHF, though if the signal is strong, it won't matter. In my area, there are a couple of stations still in the high VHF band (10 and 13), but most are UHF (including 8, and the rest being 21 and higher).

A cheap UHF bowtie from Radio Shack (fan dipole) works very well, though it's directional. I've also used a cheapo set-top rabbit ears unit with UHF hoop on the deck. Worked very well, but I wasn't very far from the transmitters.

In case the marketing folks have you convinced otherwise, 'digital ready' and all that hype is just that - hype. The signals are still UHF and sometimes VHF, so conventional UHF and VHF antennas will work just fine.

If you're curious as to what the broadcast frequencies are for the stations you want to receive, go to http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/welcome.aspx , hit 'choose an antenna', put in your zip code, and it'll give broadcast channel, tv channel it maps to (usually not the same since the changeover), distance and direction to the transmitters, etc. Very informative.
 
May 24, 2004
7,164
CC 30 South Florida
I have seen advertisements for "HD digital" antennas. What a ripoff as an antenna is just an antenna. I have had an omnidirectional Sheakespeare antenna since before the conversion and it picks up the digital signal just as well. I still have the same TV with the addition of a converter box. The picture looks better but that is probably because of the digital signal. Before I would get distant stations with much snow but now I don't get those at all as digital stations either come in clear or not at all. I do appreciate the fact that with the fixed mounted antenna I can turn TV on while underway which is a great way of keeping up with football games or getting local weather radar. The antenna has a gain booster amplifier which does help to draw in weaker signals. All these gitzmos are 120V and I power them through the inverter.
 

MrUnix

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Mar 24, 2010
626
Hunter 23 Gainesville, FL
Sometimes simpler is better! I swear by this antenna, and it out performs some I have tried that cost several hundred dollars. Based on the fractal UHF antenna design out on the net, but without the reflector to make it more unidirectional.

The one shown has a little suction cup attached to the top so I can stick it in a window, but I also have an identical one up on my roof that feeds the whole house. It replaced a 10 foot amplified aluminum deal that couldn't pull in some of the signals this little gem can. Working on a permanent mount version for the top of the mast, but in the mean time, hoisted via a halyard works just fine.

I have been really impressed with the performance of this antenna.. particularly given it's size (approx. 6 inches by 8 inches) and cost (free using parts found around the house). I encourage people to give it a try.. all you need is a couple of wire coat hangers, a (non-metallic) pole of some kind, and a handful of screws and washers. The most expensive part is the 300-75 ohm transformer which you may or may not already have in your drawer-o-parts and can actually be omitted if desired.

Cheers,
Brad
 

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Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,170
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
Sometimes simpler is better! I swear by this antenna, and it out performs some I have tried that cost several hundred dollars. Based on the fractal UHF antenna design out on the net, but without the reflector to make it more unidirectional.

The one shown has a little suction cup attached to the top so I can stick it in a window, but I also have an identical one up on my roof that feeds the whole house. It replaced a 10 foot amplified aluminum deal that couldn't pull in some of the signals this little gem can. Working on a permanent mount version for the top of the mast, but in the mean time, hoisted via a halyard works just fine.

I have been really impressed with the performance of this antenna.. particularly given it's size (approx. 6 inches by 8 inches) and cost (free using parts found around the house). I encourage people to give it a try.. all you need is a couple of wire coat hangers, a (non-metallic) pole of some kind, and a handful of screws and washers. The most expensive part is the 300-75 ohm transformer which you may or may not already have in your drawer-o-parts and can actually be omitted if desired.

Cheers,
Brad
Now, that's cool. Thanks, Brad
 
Dec 2, 2003
1,637
Hunter 376 Warsash, England --
I use a small yagi array intended for home indoor use. It looks like a smaller version of the conventional outdoor antenna but it has a signal amplifier built in. Purchasable from most TV shops.

Yes it is directional and this gives it the extra gain needed for distant transmitters. But, being short, it is not highly directional so I only need to set it approximately in the direction of the transmitter.
Mounting it high is important though.
I mounted mine on a short length of dowel and can haul this up to the spreaders on a flag halyard if necessary to bring in remote stations. A little creativity is needed to get it to point in the right direction though.
Okay, so when the boat turns on the tide I need to reset its direction - worth it for a relatively interference free signal.
 
Sep 5, 2007
689
MacGregor 26X Rochester
Made this 2-element unit from coat hanger, 2x4, and plywood. Then made a 4-element, but without the backer, to try on the boat (no pics, though). Worked very well, but too clumsy. Very directional, too, which comes with high gain (the gain has to come from somewhere - it's all about tradeoffs). The idea was that I'd surround the perimeter with some 3/8" pvc, like a picture frame with holes for the coat hanger, so the whiskers would be captive and not catch things.

Next up will be a Boatenna-type ring, just for fun. Omnidirectional, and too big to be efficient with UHF, but I'm up for experimenting. Maybe a smaller one, more in line with the short wavelength of UHF.

Edit: I should add that omnidirectional tv antennas may be problematic where multipath signals are present, especially with DTV. This is probably the only real difference between the old analog and the new digital - analog gets a distorted picture, while digital will just drop out. Omnis are probably fine on the water, or near the transmitters, but probably not so good (compared to high-gain/directional antennas) around buildings. Digital isn't really different antenna-wise, but the existing multipath interference issues become more of a problem than with analog, sometimes focing the use of a different type of antenna (more gain, more directional) than what worked for analog. 'DTV-ready' is still Madison Ave nonsense, though.

I remember a pile of debate when the DTV standard was being formulated in the US about the European standard being less sensitive to multipath interference, but for whatever reason, we decided to go our own way instead. :snooty:
 

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Feb 26, 2008
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Catalina 30 Marathon, FL
Brad,
Interesting little "bug" antenna, how sensitive is the length of the legs and their shape?

Jim
 
Nov 23, 2011
21
Blue Gallion 235 Driveway :(
Not sure if I'm late to the party or not but this Amplified UFO TV Antenna say's it will add up to 40 miles to your reception. I have it mounted on our RV, I have no need of such a device while out on the lake but I'm certain it would work just as well over water as it does on land.

A high mounting place would position it in the best area for reception and would probably add a few miles to the range of the Antenna's reception.

I've never more than 3 or so miles from land so I don't know how such a device would stand up on a boat, but it does say that it's usable for a boat so I don't see why it would be a hindrance.
 

MrUnix

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Mar 24, 2010
626
Hunter 23 Gainesville, FL
Brad,
Interesting little "bug" antenna, how sensitive is the length of the legs and their shape?
Well, the fractal (self-similar) shape is what allows the antenna to be so small. I haven't tried changing the size, but I do know that the more accurate you can get in bending the elements, the better the antenna works. This Instructables web page details the design used, including sizing and spacing measurements. You could also use a different fractal design if interested in experimenting. This antenna is based on the first iteration of a Koch curve. Cell phones almost all use a multi-iteration variation of the Minkowski curve (or sometimes referred to as the "Minkowski Island" due to it's shape). There are several other interesting curves that could be used as well.. but since this design works so well, I haven't really been motivated to find something better ;)

I had been using a DIY 4 element "bow-tie" antenna for my home, like the one tkanzler mentioned. It worked great and out performed most other antennas I had tried; until I ran across this little fractal rig.

Cheers,
Brad
 
Feb 26, 2008
603
Catalina 30 Marathon, FL
Brad,

Thought it looked like a fractal design. Thanks for the link. One more winter project...

Jim
 
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