88 Hunter legend chart table chair

[riversloth]

I Bought a 88 hunter legend and It does not have the chart table chair. There is an Air Conditioner installed under the table currently. The AC does not work and was thinking of relocating it to the other side of the boat, need to redistribute the weight a little. However I would like to find replacement for the chair that was originally there. I need either help finding one of these chairs and mounting brackets or ideas on something else that will work. Needs to be something that can be completely out of the way when not being used.

Thanks in advance
Lynn

 

[Will Gilmore]

Can you take a couple of pictures of the space? I'm sure a simple fold away bench or similar could be designed, but what's the space look like?

-Will (Dragonfly)

 

[riversloth]

This is what it looked like before and what I would like to look like again. I dont have a current picture. Once the AC and shelf removed, it will look like this without the seat.

 

[Will Gilmore]

You could put something exactly like what was there.
I would consider a hinged board that flipped up or down against the partition to the left with a gateleg.
Here's a picture of a gateleg shower bench to give you an idea.

-Will (Dragonfly)

 

[SG]

Where are you at, riversloth? You can get a metal fabricator to make one if you're close to "marine civilization". You might try checking with Hunter (Marlow, now) about who made yours originally -- it's worth a try. Someone in Florida...

 

[DayDreamer41]

@riversloth if the brackets are still there take the necessary measurements and have the support fabricated the purchase a bar stool and repurpose the seat to your nav seat, or, contact Marlow in FL (doubt that would help but just maybe).

 

[Kings Gambit]

Not to discourage your effort here, but I cannot help but mention that it’s perhaps good riddance to that type of “chair.” I had one like that on a charter (Catalina 42), and thought it a joke on anyone trying to work the chart table while underway in seas. Can’t redesign the boat, of course, but the table centerline should be aligned fore-aft with a hard seat aft that does not move. You need to be able to wedge yourself in behind the table and brace out with one leg/foot when the vessel is rolling. The previous owner probably found it “useless”, so put an AC unit there! Maybe try another idea with this chance. Half the work is done already.

 

[Will Gilmore]

I have to say, I think what KG is saying, makes sense.

-Will (Dragonfly)

 

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[John Nantz]

We have that seat on our H35 and the chart table has basically never been used as a sit-down desk. The swing out seat was a novel idea to save space but weighing other options for space usage onboard, there is a lot of unused "cube" under the navsta.
While it is seldom used for sitting on (actually, can't even remember the last time I did that), it is handy to hold back larger things. There is a lot of space there, just don't know what would be the best way to utilize it. Too much other stuff to do.
The head area (there's a bit in your picture) is the most practical of any that Ive ever come across on a boat this size. Great design there.

 

[rgranger]

I just did a google search for "swing out bar stool" and dozens of options came up that look very similar to the original design. Here is just one that I found...

 

[riversloth]

Thanks for the replies, There are other reasons for moving the AC besides just using the space for the chart table. I can see the point about the original chair not being good underway, and a forward facing nav station would be better.
I like the swinging bar stool and it would be the easiest fix.
To who said replace the AC and leave there, half the work is done. Ive already took most ducting and stuff out to get to other things. Someone said redesign wasn't an option, This is a project and I cant say its not an option.

 

[John Nantz]

I like the swinging bar stool and it would be the easiest fix.

The thing I'd be very concerned about is the load placed on the cabinetry by the hinge of the swing out stool. The Hunter version had two hinge-attach points and that is much better than the single point. Think of the twisting a single hinge would put on the cabinetry - it would be a lot. The Hunter design is different and the loading would be a lot different, too. You don't want something that will pull or tear the cabinetry apart. The plywood isn't all that thick and the wood screws aren't that hefty.

The other plus to the Hunter design is that it has a "click-stop" that keeps it in (under the navsta).
If there isn't a hurry, I'd try searching for a used one at boat salvage places first. Never done this before, but maybe checking with the major boat insurance companies for boats that were totaled (there has been a lot of hurricanes over the years). They may not help but who knows. Another plan would be to just have one made up. Garhauer Marine? Hunter may have had a company that made up their stainless items and if you could find out who it was I'd think that would be a good resource.

Personally, I use the Salon table for all my paperwork and nav stuff. Much more space available. Besides, the round seat isn't nearly as comfortable as the salon settee, but just sayin', "Your mileage may vary."

 

[riversloth]

Good point John.
I'm actually looking at the space now as to maybe reconfigure. I'm going to my boat this weekend, Ill, take some measurements, pictures and draw up some ideas.
The boat when I bought it still had everything original except the chair and AC. From the survey the insurance company had many requirements before she could even leave the dock. Over the last few months i've been replacing all fuel lines, water lines, bilge pumps, discharge lines and some wiring. I've been through every inch of the boat. I see how shes put together and believe it shouldn't be hard to tweek the layout a little. On other discussion boards, I've read that chart tables are more or less electronic stations any more. I think that will be the rational behind what I do. A nav, communication station with a table big enough for a laptop or note pad. Charts will be laid out on the saloon table when needed.

Thanks to all
Lynn

 

[John Nantz]

I'm actually looking at the space now as to maybe reconfigure. I'm going to my boat this weekend, Ill, take some measurements, pictures and draw up some ideas.

If you go the route then opt to have one made and want it to look original I can get some good measurements when the time comes. Just let me know.

The boat when I bought it still had everything original except the chair and AC.

That can be a blessing in disguise. With regard to the AC duct, we've probably got a heater duct there!

From the survey the insurance company had many requirements before she could even leave the dock. Over the last few months i've been replacing all fuel lines, water lines, bilge pumps, discharge lines and some wiring. I've been through every inch of the boat.

Those are some nice improvements. The original fuel lines were non marine and the marine grade are much more stout. Ditto with the bilge pump and some of the wiring like to the main panel for example.

Charts will be laid out on the saloon table when needed.

I've got a good modular chart table capable of holding a full-size NOAA chart in an out-of-the-way place. If I come across the picture I'll post it.
In the Northwest a heater and a dodger is to us what an air conditioner and a Bimini is to you folks down below.

 

[John Nantz]

Chart table for full-size charts: Made this up using plywood, ripping it into four sections for ease of stowage. Where the sections adjoined dowels were used to keep them at the same exact level and this requires an adapter for the drill to maintain location and height when drilling the dowel holes.
The end strips on each side of the plywood to keep it level were standard pieces from the store, in this case, probably Home Depot or Lowes.

This table setup is really handy for passage planning and following. Unfortunately, our cat seemed to like to lounge on it. Used the Technostabi (sp?) binoculars for a head rest. One advantage of the digital chart plotter is you don't have to boot the cat off your chart table. You want to use what?

 

[riversloth]

Thanks John. Good Idea.
I have the jigs for dowl joints. I have done lots of wood working over the years. not professional but I think i'm fairly good. Pictures of the cabinets I built for my kitchen remodel. Also me the day I bought the boat.
Im confident I can do some reconfiguring to make the boat a little better.