420 sail area

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John O'Donald

How much of a sail area loss is there on a h 420 with roller furling main vs the conventional full roach main?Can anyone tell me how much of a performance loss to expect? Hunter relies on the big roach main so much that I would think there would be quite a penalty. I'm considering purchase.Thanks John
 
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Greg Beckner

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I have owned my 420 with full batten main for four years but I don't know the anwer to your question re: the difference in sail area. I would say however that it problably doesn't matter. I sail my boat with at least one reef so much of the time that I have decided that whatever performance loss there is with the roller-furler is more than compensated for by the vast increase in convenience. The boat is slick with plenty of power but quite tender so it doesn't take a lot of wind for me to opt for comfort. Is there any meaningful difference for most of us between 7 Kts and 7.5 kts? You should be aware that even with an electric winch that big main does not willingly go up the mast despite what Hunter may tell you. And then again you've got to get it back down and furled again when you're done. Unless you're 6 ft 5 and or under 40 yrs old it is no picnic to get that main back into the cover--one of the penalties of a center cockpit is that the boom will be way up in the air. So my advice is to get a roller-reefer of some kind and enjoy the trip. contact me at GBeckner@houston.rr.com if you have other questions re: 420.
 
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Buck Harrison

John,

I have a 2 year old 420 w/ in mast furling. Like Greg, I am not sure how much less mainsail area the roller furling has v. the conventional main (you can call a Hunter dealer and they can give you the answer), however.... if you really want the full roach main, I believe Hunter is (now) offering a roller boom furling (full roach, full batten). And, it is possible to have an in-mast roller furling main constructed with full roach and full vertical battens. The convience of the roller furling main is wonderful, and not having to fool w/ traditional reefing, sail cover, etc. is (for me) well worth any small performance reduction. Would the extra expense of roller boom, or a new vertical batten main be worth it ??? Well,if you think about it, the only time it makes any real difference is up-wind in conditions between 10 & 20kts of wind. Over this, you are reefing either main, and under 10 kts of wind you are likely motoring to get somewhere. Off shore the main is usually reefed. Off the wind, there is even less of a performance difference. 420's are cruising boats... Whether you're cruising for a weekend, or a week, or a year.... you're generally trying to get to a specific destination..... About 1/3 of the time the wind is on the nose or too light to sail and you are motoring. About 1/3 of the time you are sailing (or motorsailing) downwind. So, only maybe 1/3 of your time underway will you actually be sailing upwind in conditions where the type of main will make any difference.... and then, probable not more than a few tenths to a half a knot.... There will be a thousand other things that you will consider far more important than those few tenths of a knot......... Now, if ya wanna race, well, that's another thing... but you're looking at a 420, which means your're looking at one of the most comfortable all around cruising boats out there.... you'll love it....
 
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Don Alexander

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John, Scaling from my 376 mainsail the area loss is 22%. But it is not just the area you loose because the sail shape is so much poorer with an in mast furling sail plus the great efficiency loss when the sail is partly furled behind the mast. For performance the normal sail is considerably superior - though I must confess to a yen for the easy setting and rolling away of a furler. With apologies to furling sail devotees!
 
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