336 vs 340--?

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Sep 4, 2010
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Hunter 336 Maquam Shore, VT
I'm looking for some good, solid information comparing the 336 and the 340. From what I've read online the same hull was used for both models, with the 340 being produced from 1997-2001 (also used in the 335). Any information you can supply related to how they each sail, accommodations below, cockpit, etc...would be useful.

I am also curious about what everyone thinks of the arch that is found on the 340; is it worth it to buy the 340 for this reason? Or do you not miss it if you own a 336?

Any other tidbits that would give me an accurate comparison of the two boats would be appreciated. My husband and I are looking to upgrade from our 1977 27' to something larger that we can cruise for a week or two at a time with our two small kids (3 & 4 years old) without going insane.

Thanks!
 
Apr 1, 2004
178
Diller-Schwill DS-16 Belle River
We had a 336, go for the arch. That big main tied to the pedestal was in your face and hard on the pedestal. Also difficult to add electronics with the main sheet there. Otherwise they are the same boats. If in mast furling is your thing, I'm not sure it was offered on the 336.
 

Rick

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Oct 5, 2004
1,098
Hunter 420 Passage San Diego
Hi Rachel
Truthfully with either I think you are going to be happy. Our good friends had a 98 340, and we did lots of buddyboat trips together. That being said, I have some thoughts. The cockpit on these boats is amazing. Our friends 356... nope ours is bigger. Catalinas or Benetows... not in the same league. Our friends 410... barely. 6 people sitting in the cockpit, no problem.

The 336 is a faster boat in light airs. Bigger full battened main. Bigger sail, harder to deal with. In 15 to 18 knots apparent. Speed is a wash.

Hull and motor identical. Arch... good yes. For bimini adaptation.. not so much. But handy for speakers. Also if you dont back the boat in the slip for swimbridge entry, the arch and a dodger combo make for some cussing when handing the cooler aboard. 340 traveler is on arch and not either coach roof or helm. More block ratteling from rigging mounted to arch during bare pole ops.

Sailing both boats are a blast and everything is run to the cockpit. We are just a dollup over 50 so maybe an electric winch for the main someday. TWO big notes. This 340 had two issues. The winch was on the outside mounting (there is room for 4 winches adjacent to companionway, two on either side) so with a dodger the winch handle wouldnt go 360. Thats not a boat fault though. The other was the mainsheet is on the starboard rope clutch so, if on a starboard tack and mainsheet adjustment is needed, you have to cleat the working sheet on the jib. Our friends just lived with it. Some put a smaller extra winch on starboard side.

Down below, layout is the same. Except our 336 has an open V design. Amazing difference. Tankage is same on both boats.
Couple of comparison pics. These are 3 or 4 years old.

If the boat has been taken care of, you cant loose either way.

Cheers
 

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Sep 4, 2010
70
Hunter 336 Maquam Shore, VT
In-mast furling....I am intrigued by this, but my husband's comment was, "what do you do when it jams and you NEED to get your sail down fast." Sounds like it would make everything easier, especially with kids. Thoughts or experiences?
 
Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
I am with your husband on the jamming issue. My experience was when we tried to deploy the main. I was NOT an issue on how it was furled, but an issue with the actual sail (stretched, I guess).

When they work they are fine. Personally I do NOT like the looks of the fiberglass arch. The S.S. versions are much nicer looking.

I doubt if you will be disappointed with either boat.
 
May 28, 2009
764
Hunter 376 Pensacola, FL
They are both basically the same boat. Same hull, same engine, probably same basic performance and sailing characteristics I'd imagine. Here are some purely subjective opinions. Some things we've noticed:

We like the interior treatments in the 336 a bit better, with things like the molded composite galley sink and the ash planking in the main salon. It appears that Hunter was looking for ways to lower costs on the 340, and the interior finish treatments show it.

It can be a bit difficult to move forward on deck on the 336 because of the lower shrouds, you have to do a Tarzan swing around them. They were rearranged on the 340 to make it a bit easier to get by them, but for some reason they also deleted the forward grabrails, which seems to negate the gain from moving the shrouds.

I don't imagine boarding seas are much of a concern, but I've never liked how they eliminated the line locker on the 340 and lowered the bridge deck. Yes, it makes annoying squeaks when you step on it, but we like the large line locker below the companionway on the 336 and the fact that you'd need a tsunami in the cockpit to get any downflooding.

We've gotten used to the compromises on the pedastal that come from mounting the traveler there. For example, the engine control lever is just wrong on the 336. It's mounted with neutral facing forward, and you have to push it down for forward, pull up for reverse. My wife always has to ask "which way do I push it?" when she turns around and tries to back down, because it's not intuitive. The vertical arrangement on the 340 seems more logical and more what everyone is used to. And as the previous poster mentioned, it's hard to mount electronics on the 336 pedestal. We've been fine though with the instruments above the companionway (best place for them actually) and a Garmin Oregon GPS on a RAM mount on the pedestal grab bar.

The pedestal mounted traveler on the 336 is not of much use. I've taken to using the mainsheet if I need to dump some air, instead of the traveler, and that's not really a good technique to use. I do have some concern about what an uncontrolled gybe in high winds might do to the pedestal, although it does appear to be pretty stoutly built. I know there are some 336's with the traveler mounted on the cabin top, so that might be a better arrangement to consider.

And here's where I'll admit that I could be completely wrong, since I'm no marine engineer (computers are my thing) but the boat was designed to be driven by the large, full roach main sailplan on the 336. I know that some 340's (without roller furling main) have basically the same sail, and would probably sail the same, but I have to think that the changes necessary to add the roller furling mainsail throws the balance of the sailplan off some. I think maybe they made the mast a bit taller on the 340 to add some more drive to the main? Anyway, the 336 is a sweet sailing boat. She'll glide along at 5 knots in 8 or 9 knots apparant. We've been out in 20 knots apparant on a close reach with a single reef, and the boat is so balanced you can let go of the wheel. Maybe the roachless main on the 340 with roller furling is equally balanced, I can't say not having sailed one.

A few things not to like about both boats. For some strange reason, the designer molded channels topside that direct deck drainage from rain storms directly across the head and aft cabin opening ports. Forgetting to close these ports in even the lightest shower can pour gallons of water into your boat. And they constantly leak, because it's virtually impossible to keep them water tight enough to basically handle being submersed whenever it rains. The propane locker it too small, requiring the use of hard to find 4.25 lb propane tanks (best deal is at Lowes.com). And the anchor locker is too small. Mounting a windlass can be a challenge. Enlarging the battery bank by adding another house battery usually results in one battery box being fixed to the removable access panel above the holding tank, which means it's not really fixed at all and will tumble in a large heel. And for some reason, ours has always had a starboard list, which seems aggravated by the fact that all the easy to use storage is on the starboard side, so that's where all the "stuff" ends up.

Bottom line is that in my opinion, the boats are close enough that I'd let price dictate. Go for the better deal. If they're close in price, then I think you'd be happier with the newer boat provided the condition is equivalent.
 
Sep 26, 2008
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- - Noank CT.
Lots and lots of good info here so I won't try and repeat anything already said. My 336 had the traveler mounted on the cabin top not the pedestal so I did not have some of the issue some talk about but I would agree the traveler on the pedestal is a inconvenience. One other small difference is that the anchor rollers are different and that what accounts for the couple of inches overall length. As far as I am concerned the fiberglass arch is not attractive and I would prefer the stainless one but it is not available on either of those models. The roller furling main is also a personal choice dependent on how you sail and how critical you are about performance over creature conveniences. Both are good boats and you will enjoy either. One upgrade you may want to consider is getting a real mattress and get rid of the foam if you plan on sleeping on the boat often. Good Luck with you purchase and let us know what you buy !
 
Jul 29, 2004
413
Hunter 340 Lake Lanier, GA
Rachel, as these are older Hunters, rather than focusing on the rather small differences between the two models, I'd suggest you find examples of these boats that are for sale in your area, go take a look and pay attention to the owner's maintenance and upkeep practices, improvements made over the years, things that may need to be done to fix issues, etc. These will have much more impact on your enjoyment of the boat you eventually buy compared to questions of no arch vs. fiberglass arch vs. stainless arch, or the presence or absence of in-mast furling. BTW, both of these topics are subjects of many previous posts and the information is not really that model specific.

For research, start by checking out the Boat Info tab at the top of this screen and start reading! After you have looked at some boats, bring your questions here but know that we will each have our own preferences and prejudices.
 
Sep 4, 2010
70
Hunter 336 Maquam Shore, VT
Thank you Ed, I'm new to this forum and was not familiar with the Boat Info Tab. I'll check it out! I'm glad all the information is available in one spot.
 
Sep 4, 2010
70
Hunter 336 Maquam Shore, VT
We have decided to postpone the boat purchase. It has been very interesting gathering the info though. Thanks for all the contributions.
 
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