There is a very clean 336 for sale at our marina that I am considering. Would be upgrading from our 29.5. What are some of the typical problem areas? Overall satisfaction with this model? Any reason to stay away? Boat is reasonably priced based on what others are selling for on this site. Also, I can't seem to find what the original selling price would have been. (Major additional option seems to be Spinnaker package and 5 winches vs. standard two.) Regards, Bryce
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Don
Did you read reviews on this site?
Best place to start. Go to the model information, then owner's review. You can also email some owners by searching the owner's directory.
Best place to start. Go to the model information, then owner's review. You can also email some owners by searching the owner's directory.
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Pete
336 info
We have a 336 and are very happy with it,sails well,not sure of any model issue per say,spinnaker would be nice option (Hunter suggest a aysmetreical (sp)) Good Luck with your new boat purchase!
We have a 336 and are very happy with it,sails well,not sure of any model issue per say,spinnaker would be nice option (Hunter suggest a aysmetreical (sp)) Good Luck with your new boat purchase!
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Ned Strain
We Love Ours
The only drawback is the difficulty in raising the main. Takes a lot of muscle. The boat sails well on most points of sail (but get an assymetrical for downwind) and, because of the high freeboard, is amazingly dry - very few waves over the bow. The short traveler is a bit of a joke but it suffices for our crusing needs. Ours is has a dodger (what a blessing in cold, rainy weather) and an autopilot - both highly recommended. The aft cabin can get warm and I'm looking for creative solutions to create more air flow on hot nights. All in all, a great boat for everything from long cruises to super parties - a phenominal amount of cockpit and salon seating and space. Get it surveyed and buy it! Ned and Tani Strain s/v Family Therapy 1995 h336 Chicago
The only drawback is the difficulty in raising the main. Takes a lot of muscle. The boat sails well on most points of sail (but get an assymetrical for downwind) and, because of the high freeboard, is amazingly dry - very few waves over the bow. The short traveler is a bit of a joke but it suffices for our crusing needs. Ours is has a dodger (what a blessing in cold, rainy weather) and an autopilot - both highly recommended. The aft cabin can get warm and I'm looking for creative solutions to create more air flow on hot nights. All in all, a great boat for everything from long cruises to super parties - a phenominal amount of cockpit and salon seating and space. Get it surveyed and buy it! Ned and Tani Strain s/v Family Therapy 1995 h336 Chicago
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Pete
336 info/main sail
Ned and Bryce, Bryce you are correct that the mail is hard to raise,for what it is worth here is what I do and find it is much much easier. Disconect the reefing system at at the sail where the pullys attach.This way you are not pulling the lines when raise the main. If conditions require it is easy to reattach the pullys and the main will still reef.Trick here is to do it before the conditions are bad so that you are not upon the deck in a hard blow.Worse case is drop the main. At any rate I found this is a much easier way to raise the main.The 336 had both a console mounted or (optional) cabin top mounted traveler( I have the cabin top)May or may no be issue for you but it can alway be moved if it is.
Ned and Bryce, Bryce you are correct that the mail is hard to raise,for what it is worth here is what I do and find it is much much easier. Disconect the reefing system at at the sail where the pullys attach.This way you are not pulling the lines when raise the main. If conditions require it is easy to reattach the pullys and the main will still reef.Trick here is to do it before the conditions are bad so that you are not upon the deck in a hard blow.Worse case is drop the main. At any rate I found this is a much easier way to raise the main.The 336 had both a console mounted or (optional) cabin top mounted traveler( I have the cabin top)May or may no be issue for you but it can alway be moved if it is.
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Andy
Pro&Con
I could do almost the same, but I don't know that the 336 is worth the difference for our 29.5 boat. A little more space, a little more speed; but at what cost! I figure the difference at about over $7,500 per foot. Maybe you can get more for your 29.5 and the 336 is priced less than the one I've seen. Please let your "old 29.5 friends" know if you're a trader/traitor or loyalist!
I could do almost the same, but I don't know that the 336 is worth the difference for our 29.5 boat. A little more space, a little more speed; but at what cost! I figure the difference at about over $7,500 per foot. Maybe you can get more for your 29.5 and the 336 is priced less than the one I've seen. Please let your "old 29.5 friends" know if you're a trader/traitor or loyalist!
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Paul
336 is 50% larger
LOA is not a great way to evaluate the "size feel" of a boat. Check out displacement and sail area for a better idea. For example, a h380 is only 4.5 feet longer than my h336, but it is a much, much larger boat. That said, I think that the major disadvantage of this model is the mainsheet rigging. If the boat you are considering has the mainsheet led to the steering pedestal, you can trim the main just by pulling on the sheet bare-handed. However the traveller is so small it is useless except to pull the boom that last foot to centerline. And forget about any kind of useful bimini, the mainsheet tackle will be in the way. If you have the "other" rig, with the traveller forward of the companionway, then you have to trim the main with a winch. That's fine if you have the extra winches (seems you do) but it's harder to singlehand. If your boat has the wing keel, it will not be very weatherly. The compass will tell you that you're tacking through 90 degrees, but the GPS tells a different story. Lots of leeway. But the main advantage is living space! It's a little floating condo. I've chartered 38-foot Beneteaus that didn't have as much space below. Good luck with your decision. Paul sv Escape Artist h336
LOA is not a great way to evaluate the "size feel" of a boat. Check out displacement and sail area for a better idea. For example, a h380 is only 4.5 feet longer than my h336, but it is a much, much larger boat. That said, I think that the major disadvantage of this model is the mainsheet rigging. If the boat you are considering has the mainsheet led to the steering pedestal, you can trim the main just by pulling on the sheet bare-handed. However the traveller is so small it is useless except to pull the boom that last foot to centerline. And forget about any kind of useful bimini, the mainsheet tackle will be in the way. If you have the "other" rig, with the traveller forward of the companionway, then you have to trim the main with a winch. That's fine if you have the extra winches (seems you do) but it's harder to singlehand. If your boat has the wing keel, it will not be very weatherly. The compass will tell you that you're tacking through 90 degrees, but the GPS tells a different story. Lots of leeway. But the main advantage is living space! It's a little floating condo. I've chartered 38-foot Beneteaus that didn't have as much space below. Good luck with your decision. Paul sv Escape Artist h336
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Bob
We love ours too
We just finished our 3rd full season with Pilgrim, a '95 336 (see photo on HOW photos section). I agree with Ned 100%. The roomy cockpit and cabin were one of the main attactions, but there were many others as well. The traveller is mounted on the pedastal and is short and could be called a joke I guess but it is conveniently located when I quickly have to pop the traveller to relieve some pressure on the main, and that little distance it travels does make a difference. And otherwise, it does provide some trimming capability. The main can be a bear to get up. I put dish soap in track from time to time and it makes a difference and make sure reefing lines are loose with slack. Having said that, I do wonder how I'll manage it in another 5 years (maybe a longer winch handle will make a difference). The Yanmar engine has not let me down; the APC is great for down wind and I've had fun on a beam reach with it too; I don't see how a manufacturer could do better job on head or galley in a boat this size. Negatives: all 3 tank gauges have needed repair or replacement; mainsheet is a problem if you want a good bimini; aft cabin does get warm (I have one fan in there on port side and want to add another on starboard side to encourage circulation); ice box is deep and takes a big lean to get the beers off the bottom; topping lift does not run to cockpit (will deal with this in the Spring). I believe original purchase price was about 72k and I don't know what that included. In summary, my wife and I have no regrets over buying this boat and have had a lot of fun with it on day sails and up to 2+ week cruises. Friends who have been on more different boats than we have, all say it is very comfortable and that it sails better than tey expected. Bob Pilgrim
We just finished our 3rd full season with Pilgrim, a '95 336 (see photo on HOW photos section). I agree with Ned 100%. The roomy cockpit and cabin were one of the main attactions, but there were many others as well. The traveller is mounted on the pedastal and is short and could be called a joke I guess but it is conveniently located when I quickly have to pop the traveller to relieve some pressure on the main, and that little distance it travels does make a difference. And otherwise, it does provide some trimming capability. The main can be a bear to get up. I put dish soap in track from time to time and it makes a difference and make sure reefing lines are loose with slack. Having said that, I do wonder how I'll manage it in another 5 years (maybe a longer winch handle will make a difference). The Yanmar engine has not let me down; the APC is great for down wind and I've had fun on a beam reach with it too; I don't see how a manufacturer could do better job on head or galley in a boat this size. Negatives: all 3 tank gauges have needed repair or replacement; mainsheet is a problem if you want a good bimini; aft cabin does get warm (I have one fan in there on port side and want to add another on starboard side to encourage circulation); ice box is deep and takes a big lean to get the beers off the bottom; topping lift does not run to cockpit (will deal with this in the Spring). I believe original purchase price was about 72k and I don't know what that included. In summary, my wife and I have no regrets over buying this boat and have had a lot of fun with it on day sails and up to 2+ week cruises. Friends who have been on more different boats than we have, all say it is very comfortable and that it sails better than tey expected. Bob Pilgrim
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David L
My 2 cents
Have owned my 336 for a little over a year now. My last boat was a Hunter 34. Had it for 9 yrs and loved it. The 336 is head and shoulders above the 34. It's faster, larger cockpit, propane cooking, larger head, increased tankage, great to spend a couple of weeks on, very little weather helm and just plain fun to sail. I too had trouble raising the main. Considered all the usual ways to fix the problem. One day a racer friend of mine went sailing with me. When it came time to raise the main, he went to the mast, grabbed the halyard and started pulling while I tailed in the cockpit. When he could pull no more he started pulling the halyard at right angles to the mast and as he eased off I pulled the slack. Got the main up in about 30 seconds. And not worn out in the process. Since the halyards on my 34 exited at the bottom of the mast this was not an option. Now that is how we raise the main with 2 or more on the boat. Am working on a way to do it single handed. As for removing the reef lines. Not on my boat. Dave
Have owned my 336 for a little over a year now. My last boat was a Hunter 34. Had it for 9 yrs and loved it. The 336 is head and shoulders above the 34. It's faster, larger cockpit, propane cooking, larger head, increased tankage, great to spend a couple of weeks on, very little weather helm and just plain fun to sail. I too had trouble raising the main. Considered all the usual ways to fix the problem. One day a racer friend of mine went sailing with me. When it came time to raise the main, he went to the mast, grabbed the halyard and started pulling while I tailed in the cockpit. When he could pull no more he started pulling the halyard at right angles to the mast and as he eased off I pulled the slack. Got the main up in about 30 seconds. And not worn out in the process. Since the halyards on my 34 exited at the bottom of the mast this was not an option. Now that is how we raise the main with 2 or more on the boat. Am working on a way to do it single handed. As for removing the reef lines. Not on my boat. Dave
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