272 LE Hull Liner & Interior Ideas

[DeltaBreeze]

Hi All, I have gutted my 272 LE due to much of the wood having rotted and the hull liner was stained and smelly. The 272 was completely covered with carpet on walls and ceiling.

I will be potting and rebedding all of the deck hardware with butyl from Mainesail in an effort to have a dry interior, but removing the liner was such a pain that I am hesitant to replace it with more liner. I have read a number of threads on this site re: hull liner removal and replacement but would like to solicit opinions on alternatives. I'm inclined to take a grinding wheel to the remaining glue and paint the hull, but will this bring down the potential resale value?

Anyone replaced their hull liner recently and willing to share advice and pics?

Additionally, having removed all the interior, anyone have any ideas or ways that the interior was rebuilt to be a better use of space? The original bulkheads are 1/2" thick plywood. Is this sufficient or should I move up to 3/4"?

I have marine grade plywood and thinking about how I will seal and finish this, perhaps I should add some veneer to up the value?

Lots of questions but as I hope to do it right the first time, I'd like to learn from everyone what makes the most sense and bang for the buck should I be interested in reselling down the road.

Thanks in advance!

Andrew

 

[Pat]

I can't imagine the amount of work involved....we had serious issues with water intrusion from the cockpit floor / Edson wheel (common to all builders) which made the liner a wet, musty, mess...we have now torn the liner off under the cockpit but intend to put up some kind of new liner in it's place...but not until the incessant leak is fixed which is another big job...we found a great cleaner for the liner that I use in main salon....I'm not going to completely strip the entire boat...just keep it clean with scrubbing bubbles mildew spray....not an aerosol spray..we've also got a carpet cleaner with an attachment that really cleans the carpet on the exterior bulkheads/side of boat, etc....As for looking at what others have done, got to the top of the sheet and look under owner directory and boat owner's columns and look at the photos of what others have done to their o'days...any thing is possible...limited only by the time and money you want to spend...you'll get some good ideas. Pat

 

[Technodad]

Hi Delta breeze, I replaced all my hull liner and it ended up being a great job.
Check out my previous posts for some details, unfortunately I did not take pics as I did it but I have posted finished pics and how I did it and what to use.

John

 

[Castrilper55]

Breeze-

I have an O'day 26 with a great interior. Liner is original - but the Wife Unit wont touch it while trying to sleep... I decided to remove the "carpet " (mine looks more like burlap) and replace with wood planks. There are plenty of examples of how to do this on line ... here's one that I particularly like: http://hagothlog.blogspot.com/2013/01/installing-wood-ceiling.html?m=1 . I have been trying to find the wood and intend to have all wood cut and sealed before I get my boat out of storage this spring so I can hit the ground running. Still looking for ideas - but think the planking will be dazzling. BTW - I found that people call this 'ceiling replacement' which threw me off when I was looking for ideas on line. Good luck with it.

Also - IMHO adding veneer to your marine plywood is a must. Www.oakwoodveneer.com is a reputable source. I have used them in the past and found them easy to deal with and reasonably priced.

What is 'mainsail' where you are getting your butyl rubber? I would like to do some preventative maintenance this summer as re-coring a deck sounds like a daunting task.

All the best - Chris Clark O'Day 26 'Second Wind'

Hi All, I have gutted my 272 LE due to much of the wood having rotted and the hull liner was stained and smelly. The 272 was completely covered with carpet on walls and ceiling.

I will be potting and rebedding all of the deck hardware with butyl from Mainesail in an effort to have a dry interior, but removing the liner was such a pain that I am hesitant to replace it with more liner. I have read a number of threads on this site re: hull liner removal and replacement but would like to solicit opinions on alternatives. I'm inclined to take a grinding wheel to the remaining glue and paint the hull, but will this bring down the potential resale value?

Anyone replaced their hull liner recently and willing to share advice and pics?

Additionally, having removed all the interior, anyone have any ideas or ways that the interior was rebuilt to be a better use of space? The original bulkheads are 1/2" thick plywood. Is this sufficient or should I move up to 3/4"?

I have marine grade plywood and thinking about how I will seal and finish this, perhaps I should add some veneer to up the value?

Lots of questions but as I hope to do it right the first time, I'd like to learn from everyone what makes the most sense and bang for the buck should I be interested in reselling down the road.

Thanks in advance!

Andrew

 

[Panta Rei]

It’s nice seeing some more projects popping up on the O’day site. I have some words that may help.
This will help everyone that has a leaky deck, portlite, hatch etc.(anyone with a sailboat) These are very easy fixes. I have two O’day sailboats and neither have leaks. None of my sailing buddies have leaks in their decks. Your boat should not have any either.
Yes, I agree with Calder and others that the proper way to bed winches and cleats in a deck is to remove the core surrounding the item and filling the area with a filled epoxy and then thu-bolting the item sealing it with butyl. Unfortunately, the people who built production boats in the 80’s did not do that. O’day included.
You can stop beating yourself for not ripping your boat apart and correcting this.
Manufacturers and service departments of powerboats, RV, sailboats airplanes all use penetrating epoxies to seal leaks after the product is assembled and tested. I know, as a VP of a Florida paint company, we sold them the stuff. This product is very similar to the penetrating epoxy used to repair rotted wood in homes and boats and should be used to seal any wood you are intending to put into your boat.
As we may have all experienced, leaks are very hard to track down working from the bottom up. They can track sideways for long distances. Manufactures do not disassemble their products to track these leaks down. They test entrance possibilities with Penetrating epoxies. Once they find the entrance point they may remove the item and re-bed it but often they will simply let the epoxy cure and the problem is solved.
As a boat owner, you should use a penetrating epoxy at least once a year since many times you can not tell it you have a leak until it is far too late and it has soaked the core of your deck. This once a year test takes less than thirty minutes on a 40 ft boat. You can mix up some penetrating epoxy yourself by adding solvent to epoxy resin to lower the viscosity and ad surfactants to reduce the surface tension but you should real know what you are doing because these modifications soften and can degrade the cured epoxy. Fortunately you can buy a small bottle of the stuff at West Marine for about $15. The product is called Captain Tolley’s creeping crack cure. The website is a hoot. Captain Tolley is the classic British salty old sailor. Go to the website http://www.captaintolley.com/ and click on the MOVIE. The boat application is towards the end.
Don’t use the Captain trolleys as a penetrating sealer for larger areas of wood or core as there are penetrating sealants sold in larger qualities for that purpose.

As for hull and ceiling liners . I applied both in my boat. see http://forums.oday.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?t=132435 or http://panta-rhei.weebly.com/

 

[DeltaBreeze]

Hi Chris,
Maine Sail is a prominent member / admin of this site that has his own site where he provides great documentaries of how to perform all kinds of maintenance. He sells a concoction of butyl tape that is well regarded. See his site at http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/boat_projects
Andrew

 

[DeltaBreeze]

Thanks Panta-Rei... Slowly making my way through the pages on your linked thread. Enjoying it!

 

[DeltaBreeze]

Check out this wood I picked up yesterday... The yellow piece in front is regular marine grade ply I picked up a while back, but the good looking pale stuff is Baltic birch... More plies, exterior grade glue, good looking finish, all round better and a little cheaper too!

 

[DeltaBreeze]

Heavy though... I can't grip and lift the 3/4" sheet and the 1/2" sheet is a workout.