Hi folks. My wife and I are thinking about buying this boat, it will be our first. We are looking for a daysailor that is comfortable to sail with 6, but that we can aslo camp out in. I may also be interested in racing it in local regatas as well. Just looking for genneral opinions on this boat. I've read most of the stuff posted on this web site and on trailersailor.com, but it seems as if people have conflicting opinions about it. Some specific questions I have are: Does it sail well in light air? Is there a specific place for an anchor? It doesn't seem like there is a bow locker. Anybody race them in handicap PHRF or Portsmouth regatas? How does it perform? Thanks, apreciate it much!
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Rick Webb
Unless All Y'all are Under 4' Tall It'll be Tight
With four of us on our 23.5 it gets crowded cannot imagine 6 on a smaller boat.
With four of us on our 23.5 it gets crowded cannot imagine 6 on a smaller boat.
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matt
sorry, up to 6 in the cockpit, two below
Shoulda been more specific. I meant six in the cockpit. We'd only overnight with 2 and a dog in the cabin. The size of the boat seems to suit our needs. I'm moreworried about the quality and sailing characteristics. Thanks!
Shoulda been more specific. I meant six in the cockpit. We'd only overnight with 2 and a dog in the cabin. The size of the boat seems to suit our needs. I'm moreworried about the quality and sailing characteristics. Thanks!
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Miles Meyer
I found the 212 to be a great boat, it's light which makes it extremely fast. I have day sailed with 6 and no problem. Never slept aboard, but know it had 4 berths.No anchor locker, I kept mine in a heavy canvas bag with chain and 125 ft. 3/8 rhode, when needed it was easy to carry forward or where needed. Never offically raced her as I travel extensively, but been sailing for over 60 years and used to race alot, I say "This is a fast boat" Just mover up to a 240, hope I like her as much as the 212
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Rick Webb
Anchor Rode Suggestion
If you coil your rode into a bucket it will stay in one place and keep it from getting tangled and you always have a bailing bucket handy. The second part of this is to use two of the same buckets put holes into the bottom of one. Stack them together and coil your wet anchor rode into them let the water drain into the bottom bucket and dump it over the side.
If you coil your rode into a bucket it will stay in one place and keep it from getting tangled and you always have a bailing bucket handy. The second part of this is to use two of the same buckets put holes into the bottom of one. Stack them together and coil your wet anchor rode into them let the water drain into the bottom bucket and dump it over the side.
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matt
great info, keep it comin!
Thanks guys Miles, your comment just moved me one step closer to the 212. Our local Yacth club holds open class regatas that usualy feature a handfull of 20-23ft boats, common ones like the Catalina 22, SJ 21, U20, J22, Cal 20 etc. As a begginer I won't be expecting to win any races for a while, but I'd at least like a boat that could keep up if I sail her well. I assume the Spinaker is necesary if racing her seriously? Does the lack of a main sheet traveler and adjustable backstay hinder her performance much? Just curious, what weight anchor is suitable for a bout of this size?
Thanks guys Miles, your comment just moved me one step closer to the 212. Our local Yacth club holds open class regatas that usualy feature a handfull of 20-23ft boats, common ones like the Catalina 22, SJ 21, U20, J22, Cal 20 etc. As a begginer I won't be expecting to win any races for a while, but I'd at least like a boat that could keep up if I sail her well. I assume the Spinaker is necesary if racing her seriously? Does the lack of a main sheet traveler and adjustable backstay hinder her performance much? Just curious, what weight anchor is suitable for a bout of this size?
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Rick Webb
8# Danforth
That should be plenty. I would think the boat would have one on it already. It is a neat boat, I was looking for one when I ended up with my 23.5. I thought we did not need a boat bigger than the 212 but now am thinking of one larger than the 23.5. It is a nasty addiction.
That should be plenty. I would think the boat would have one on it already. It is a neat boat, I was looking for one when I ended up with my 23.5. I thought we did not need a boat bigger than the 212 but now am thinking of one larger than the 23.5. It is a nasty addiction.
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matt
portsmouth rating
Saw on ussailing.org that it is rated at 91.0 This seemed pretty good compared to other 21 footers, and is tha same as the Hunter 260!
Saw on ussailing.org that it is rated at 91.0 This seemed pretty good compared to other 21 footers, and is tha same as the Hunter 260!
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JOHN SCHOPPAUL
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I HAVE OWNED MINE 2 YEARS, BEEN SAILING WITH 2 ADULTS AND 3 KIDS. PERFECT/ADEQUATE FOR US AS ONE OR TWO CHILDREN EITHER DOWN BELOW OR UP FRONT. IT GETS KIND OF TIGHT WITH 5 IN THE COCKPIT. WITH TWO ON EACH SIDE, AND YOU (THE HELMSMAN) MOVING BACK AND FORTH, IT WORKS. IF YOU HAVE A SIXTH ADULT,YOU WILL BE PLAYING SOME SAILING VERSION OF MUSICAL CHAIRS. SAILING CHARACTERISTICS. SAILS GREAT, EXCEPT WHEN IF REALLY BLOWS, AND THEN TOO MUCH WEATHER HELM. (THE RUDDER IS A WEAK POINT). THE RUDDER THEN BEGINS TO LIFT OUT OF THE WATER, AND THEN YOU BEGIN TO ROUND UP. THE HEELING THEN REDUCES, YOUR RUDDER GOES DOWN, AND YOU START OVER AGAIN. I KNOW, POORLY WRITTEN, BUT IT'S THE BEST I CAN DO. HUNTER REALLY NEEDS TO RE-DESIGN THIS RUDDER. IT FLEXES TOO MUCH AND KICKS UP SOMETIMES AT THE WORSE POSSIBLE MOMENTS. ALL THAT SAID, I DO LOVE CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THIS BOAT. SHALLOW DRAFT AND YES, THE KICK-UP RUDDER GIVES ME CONFIDENCE TO GO ANYWHERE ON THE C.T. RIVER, EASY TO MAINTAIN, LOTS OF FLOTATION, SIMPLE TO RIG AND SAIL. HAVE FUN.
I HAVE OWNED MINE 2 YEARS, BEEN SAILING WITH 2 ADULTS AND 3 KIDS. PERFECT/ADEQUATE FOR US AS ONE OR TWO CHILDREN EITHER DOWN BELOW OR UP FRONT. IT GETS KIND OF TIGHT WITH 5 IN THE COCKPIT. WITH TWO ON EACH SIDE, AND YOU (THE HELMSMAN) MOVING BACK AND FORTH, IT WORKS. IF YOU HAVE A SIXTH ADULT,YOU WILL BE PLAYING SOME SAILING VERSION OF MUSICAL CHAIRS. SAILING CHARACTERISTICS. SAILS GREAT, EXCEPT WHEN IF REALLY BLOWS, AND THEN TOO MUCH WEATHER HELM. (THE RUDDER IS A WEAK POINT). THE RUDDER THEN BEGINS TO LIFT OUT OF THE WATER, AND THEN YOU BEGIN TO ROUND UP. THE HEELING THEN REDUCES, YOUR RUDDER GOES DOWN, AND YOU START OVER AGAIN. I KNOW, POORLY WRITTEN, BUT IT'S THE BEST I CAN DO. HUNTER REALLY NEEDS TO RE-DESIGN THIS RUDDER. IT FLEXES TOO MUCH AND KICKS UP SOMETIMES AT THE WORSE POSSIBLE MOMENTS. ALL THAT SAID, I DO LOVE CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THIS BOAT. SHALLOW DRAFT AND YES, THE KICK-UP RUDDER GIVES ME CONFIDENCE TO GO ANYWHERE ON THE C.T. RIVER, EASY TO MAINTAIN, LOTS OF FLOTATION, SIMPLE TO RIG AND SAIL. HAVE FUN.
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browndog
Think about the 240
Consider the 240. A little bigger but much more room for 6 and if you have kids, you'll want some room for them to roam a bit. The 240 offers two berths, a small sink and porta-potty, room for 6 in the cockpit plus the neat stern rail seats. I debated over the 212 and the 240 and as a proud owner of the 240 I'd recommend even buying a used 240 to gain the extra space - in the end I think you'll be more satisfied if larger groups to sail with and "comfort" is truly one of the top priorities. Either way, I think you'll love Hunter. Very friendly boats and well engineered.
Consider the 240. A little bigger but much more room for 6 and if you have kids, you'll want some room for them to roam a bit. The 240 offers two berths, a small sink and porta-potty, room for 6 in the cockpit plus the neat stern rail seats. I debated over the 212 and the 240 and as a proud owner of the 240 I'd recommend even buying a used 240 to gain the extra space - in the end I think you'll be more satisfied if larger groups to sail with and "comfort" is truly one of the top priorities. Either way, I think you'll love Hunter. Very friendly boats and well engineered.
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matt
thought about it...
...for a second, but bigboatitus starts to kick in. We've looked at 25's 23's and such but decided that 21 is the max size we want for now. We don't have kids, yet... We are on the fence between the 212 and a Precision 21 right now... Anyone ever experience a knockdown in a 212?
...for a second, but bigboatitus starts to kick in. We've looked at 25's 23's and such but decided that 21 is the max size we want for now. We don't have kids, yet... We are on the fence between the 212 and a Precision 21 right now... Anyone ever experience a knockdown in a 212?
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matt
Bimini?
I'm wondering how the bimini that is listed as an option fits over the cockpit with the mainsheet rigged in the center? My wife is sensitive to sun and we think this would be a good investment. Anybody got a photo?
I'm wondering how the bimini that is listed as an option fits over the cockpit with the mainsheet rigged in the center? My wife is sensitive to sun and we think this would be a good investment. Anybody got a photo?
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