1993 Catalina 28 Stanchion Snapped

Oct 24, 2024
4
Catalina 28 Mk 1 Oak Harbor
One of the stanchions snapped at the base where the through the hull stainless bolt is welded to the base of the stanchion.

From what I can see, getting to the nut that is threaded on to the bolt is near impossible. I was able to remove the stanchion, but not sure how to proceed with a replacement.

I am open to suggestions. Maybe someone has had the same issue? I have attached a picture from the deck side.
 

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jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
22,076
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
If it is screwed into a plate in the deck, I would try using a drill. Attach it securely to the bolt as you would a drill bit and see if you can back it out.

A low probability idea. There are no threads apparently on the bolt. If there are you can try to thread on a pair of nuts and grabbing the lower on back it out against the upper one. This may not work in the confined space.

Amother idea is to try a screw removal tool. You drill a small hole int the center of the bolt. Thread in the removal bit and back the bolt out.

The last option is to drill the bolt out. Rethread the new hole and use a bigger bolt to reinstall the stanchion.
 
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Sep 17, 2022
87
Catalina 22 Oolagah
Wow. I’m going to think about this one but, here are some thoughts that have come to mind. Not knowing your boat, I do hope that you have kept your old stanchion base plate for reference below decks for the new stanchion install. Are all three nuts embedded or, are the two inboard nuts accessible from the cabin? Is the outboard nut embedded in the hull? So, if the inboard nuts are accessible in the cabin then drop the two inboard bolts through the deck and fasten the base plate in the cabin snugly. This will give you the ability to locate and mark where the blind nut is. Hopefully it’s just in a place where you can’t comfortably access but, with effort someone smaller than you can reach. Now here’s the part where you have some options.:

1) You can attempt to use a “Speed Out” or other some such broken bolt/screw extractor. I would not skimp on the quality of the extractor as you are drilling into a hardened and brittle stainless steel bolt but, whether this works or not, is the question. If you have a cordless variable speed Dremel Tool, this will help you keep the extractor centered on the work surface. Patience will be the key. Hopefully this works as it’s the easiest solution (assuming your retaining nut is embedded).

2) If option 1 doesn’t do the trick, then you can get an appropriately sized wood plug cutter hole saw which you can use to “cut out” the material around the bolt and then with a hemostat or needle nose pliers you can coax what I am assuming is an embedded nut out of it’s hole. If this works, you can oversize drill and pot the hole, redrill and then embed a replacement retraining nut to remount the new stanchion. Now, if you were able to mark the location of the embedded nut from the cabin/underside and cannot nudge the embedded nut out, I would suggest that the easier approach is to drill out entirely and let the old retaining nut fall through to the bottom and then proceed with sealing the underside of the hole and preparing the retaining nut for the new stanchion. I use West Systems epoxy for everything on my boat and they have excellent manuals, specific instructions and videos for what I have suggested you do.

I hope this helps. I will look forward to seeing exactly how things look from in the cabin as you access what needs to be done to effect the repair.

George
 
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Sep 17, 2022
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Catalina 22 Oolagah
If it is screwed into a plate in the deck, I would try using a drill. Attach it securely to the bolt as you would a drill bit and see if you can back it out.

A low probability idea. There are no threads apparently on the bolt. If there are you can try to thread on a pair of nuts and grabbing the lower on back it out against the upper one. This may not work in the confined space.

Amother idea is to try a screw removal tool. You drill a small hole int the center of the bolt. Thread in the removal bit and back the bolt out.

The last option is to drill the bolt out. Rethread the new hole and use a bigger bolt to reinstall the stanchion.
jssailem:
Great advice. With my smaller boat (C-22) experience, there are not a lot of embedded plates for bolts to pass through. If there is a plate, it should be an easy peasy drill out.

George
 
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Oct 24, 2024
4
Catalina 28 Mk 1 Oak Harbor
If it is screwed into a plate in the deck, I would try using a drill. Attach it securely to the bolt as you would a drill bit and see if you can back it out.

A low probability idea. There are no threads apparently on the bolt. If there are you can try to thread on a pair of nuts and grabbing the lower on back it out against the upper one. This may not work in the confined space.

Amother idea is to try a screw removal tool. You drill a small hole int the center of the bolt. Thread in the removal bit and back the bolt out.

The last option is to drill the bolt out. Rethread the new hole and use a bigger bolt to reinstall the stanchion.
Thank you - I think the last option may prove to be the best. If there is room to back the bolt out I will try that first.
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
22,076
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Don't ignore the drill idea. I have used it several times all with success.
 
Oct 24, 2024
4
Catalina 28 Mk 1 Oak Harbor
There are several threads about this on the Catalina 28 group. If you reach up behind the teak trim you'll be able to feel the nut and stud, or use the mirror from the head cabinet to look up there.
Here is a link to one of the discussions
Yes - thank you. I found some of the published threads on this issue. I can see the nut - but getting a socket on it is possible - may need a special tool with a deep shaft. If am able to get the nut off, I am not sure how I will be able to pull the bolt through the deck. I am leaning towards the drill approach. Best
 

Ward H

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Nov 7, 2011
3,750
Catalina 30 Mk II Cedar Creek, Bayville NJ
Search on Amazon (for reference) for a Crowfoot wrench set. I've been told that's what is used to get those nuts off on C30 stanchions.