1988 Pearson 36-2 CB

Oct 27, 2019
7
Pearson 36-2 Ct
I know this is a shot in the dark, but would any Pearson 36-2 owners have a diagram of how the CB cable is run? I noticed on ours there are no inspection boxes to inspect cable. Reason I'm asking, it takes considerable effort to raise the CB which seems to put a lot of tension on the cable.
Thanks in advance
 

NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
3,148
Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
When I bought my 1986 P 36-2 I dismantled the entire centerboard system. I pulled the cable down and with it pulled a tracer line to pull cable back. I took
Apart and cleaned all the pipes. The sheave on the hull was seized (bronze sheave ss housing) and I had a new one made. Any quality welding shop can do it...... I gave them the old one along with a new bronze sheave and the copied it..... cost around $150. I also bought all new unions and replaced cable.. . Once I put it back together it worked like a charm..... easily one hand operation by anyone. I used it all the time and after 10 years of having boat it worked
Perfectly.
Any questions...... let me know.

Greg
Former p36-2 #101
 

Ariel

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Feb 1, 2006
279
Pearson 36-2 Houston, TX / Rock Hall, MD
Peter,
I have never seen a diagram of the CB cable. The cable tube is straightforward, from the sheave block at the hull, through two turning blocks to the end of the tube just below the sink counter top (about 18 inches above the water line). There are no "windows" to inspect the line. It is not uncommon for it to be hard to raise the last foot or so of cable as the angle of the CB is very steep at that point. I leave the board down about a foot just to keep from having to crank so hard and that also reduces some of the turbulence in the CB slot.

I inspect the cable at each bottom job but have never found any wear. At 18 years I replaced the cable and it looked like new. That was 14 years ago. If you do replace the cable make sure there is a proper back splice at the connection point. Bronze swages will not last on a SS cable in salt water.

Several people have had problems with the encapsulated sheaves freezing in the case. This will obviously make the CB difficult to raise. In most of these cases the unions in the tube are also frozen due to age and as a result most of the tubing must be replaced, making the job that much more labor intensive. Hopefully you are not faced with that problem.

So, if the difficulty in cranking up the CB is only for the last 12 to 18 inches, I would keep sailing and leave the board down a bit. Or but an old Hinckley. They had an electric motor and worm gear to raise and lower the board. And when that quit you quickly learned why they are so expensive to own.

Dave
 
Oct 27, 2019
7
Pearson 36-2 Ct
When I bought my 1986 P 36-2 I dismantled the entire centerboard system. I pulled the cable down and with it pulled a tracer line to pull cable back. I took
Apart and cleaned all the pipes. The sheave on the hull was seized (bronze sheave ss housing) and I had a new one made. Any quality welding shop can do it...... I gave them the old one along with a new bronze sheave and the copied it..... cost around $150. I also bought all new unions and replaced cable.. . Once I put it back together it worked like a charm..... easily one hand operation by anyone. I used it all the time and after 10 years of having boat it worked
Perfectly.
Any questions...... let me know.

Greg
Former p36-2 #101
Hi Greg,
Thank you for the info. We were told the CB cable was replaced a few years ago and the owner seldom use the CB. I'll certainly check the sheave on the hull. As far as pulling it all apart, I can accomplish that. How far would you estimate the CB needs to be dropped? Enough to expose the connecting point on the CB?
Again thank you the information
Peter
 
Oct 27, 2019
7
Pearson 36-2 Ct
Hi Greg,
Thank you for the info. We were told the CB cable was replaced a few years ago and the owner seldom use the CB. I'll certainly check the sheave on the hull. As far as pulling it all apart, I can accomplish that. How far would you estimate the CB needs to be dropped? Enough to expose the connecting point on the CB?
Again thank you the information
Peter
PS.....36-2 #158 :)
 
Oct 27, 2019
7
Pearson 36-2 Ct
Peter,
I have never seen a diagram of the CB cable. The cable tube is straightforward, from the sheave block at the hull, through two turning blocks to the end of the tube just below the sink counter top (about 18 inches above the water line). There are no "windows" to inspect the line. It is not uncommon for it to be hard to raise the last foot or so of cable as the angle of the CB is very steep at that point. I leave the board down about a foot just to keep from having to crank so hard and that also reduces some of the turbulence in the CB slot.

I inspect the cable at each bottom job but have never found any wear. At 18 years I replaced the cable and it looked like new. That was 14 years ago. If you do replace the cable make sure there is a proper back splice at the connection point. Bronze swages will not last on a SS cable in salt water.

Several people have had problems with the encapsulated sheaves freezing in the case. This will obviously make the CB difficult to raise. In most of these cases the unions in the tube are also frozen due to age and as a result most of the tubing must be replaced, making the job that much more labor intensive. Hopefully you are not faced with that problem.

So, if the difficulty in cranking up the CB is only for the last 12 to 18 inches, I would keep sailing and leave the board down a bit. Or but an old Hinckley. They had an electric motor and worm gear to raise and lower the board. And when that quit you quickly learned why they are so expensive to own.

Dave
Hi Dave,
Thank you for the info. Do the turning blocks have any moving parts in them? My blocks appear to be welded close so inspection is impossible unless I can see into them via the piping connections. I understand our CB weighs in at 850 lbs so that in itself lends me to believe why it's hard to raise all the way up. It might be I don't have a problem, it's just heavy at that point where the cable sounds like piano wire. I will certainly take your advice and leave her down 12 to 18 inches.
She is on the hard now and I release the tension on the cable for the winter months.
One more question...what is consider to much lateral movement in the CB? We have some but not sure if it's ok or we should have the pivot point replaced.
Cheers
Peter
 

NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
3,148
Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
Inside the turning blocks are bronze sheaves.... when I took everything apart I soaked them in vinegar to get calcium deposits out. You can shake them and hear the inter parts moving which is good. I also poured oil into them after cleaning. On my boat after putting back together there was no issue pulling all the way up, however I never did. When on the hard I pulled it all the way up And marked the cable so I knew where max was...... then I would leave it an inch or two away. When you take things apart, just support the board. Doesn’t have to be any specific height. But like I said it would crank all the way up with no effort. Don’t think the board is 850 lbs..... thought more in line with 250 if I remember correctly. When in the sling and I would drop it you can feel the weight. Lateral movement was a bit but I never had any issues with board banging the trunk.

Good luck
Greg
 
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NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
3,148
Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
Bill Shaw designed an excellent boat with the 36-2...... She sails wonderfully and has great accommodations. My wife and I thought it was our last boat and basically took the whole thing apart upgrading along the way over thew 10 years we owned her. Enjoy!!!! Maybe we will bump into you next summer in our voyages. Where in Ct do you sail out of??

Greg
 
Oct 27, 2019
7
Pearson 36-2 Ct
Bill Shaw designed an excellent boat with the 36-2...... She sails wonderfully and has great accommodations. My wife and I thought it was our last boat and basically took the whole thing apart upgrading along the way over thew 10 years we owned her. Enjoy!!!! Maybe we will bump into you next summer in our voyages. Where in Ct do you sail out of??

Greg
Hi Greg....I concur...she is a beautifully designed vessel built like a destroyer and sails like a dream. She really opens up around 22 knots :) We were surprise by how much room she has below...she is very comfortable. Home away from home...
I just replaced the entire septic system. Was surprise she came with a bladder, but the owner had the original blue prints and it calls out for a 25 gal bladder.
Next on the list will be inspecting the CB, new radar/GPS, and clutches topside, plus I've already installed a few upgrades in the cabin. This vessel came with AC/Heating, once I have it checked out I may reinstall.

My wife (First mate) and I sail out of Westbrook Ct. hope to see you guys out there next year!
Cheers
Peter
 

NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
3,148
Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
Bought our new boat from Westbrook...... spent the whole winter 2016/17 every weekend up there cleaning and getting to know her. We fell in love with the town!

I replace all blocks with Gauhar and clutches with Antal.....
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Oct 27, 2019
7
Pearson 36-2 Ct
Nice, what are the labels for the starboard and port clutches? We currently don't have any clutches on the port side and only 3 on the starboard..
Yeah my wife says I live at the marina during the winter because I spend so much time there working on the boat :) Summer months are by far better.
I see you run a dodger...can you still use the small hatches above head and aft stateroom? I took ours off because it interfered (frame) with the hatches. Couldn't open them even with the dodger folded down. Bad design on our dodger.
Photo was taken this fall at Hamburg Cove on the Ct. River. I leave the head sail out a bit when on a Resized_20191012_192707.jpeg mooring...acts like a rudder of sorts....
 

NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
3,148
Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
Yes the hatches opened with dodger up....... I had full canvas made.... shade is nice! Regarding clutches, I added on both sides to had all lines coming aft and made it as organized as possible. I added spare main and jib halyards. The boat was very easy to work with...... I had an anchor sail that I ran up the back-stay when on anchor / mooring. A wonderful thing......

Nice shot! Havent been up there in a few years..... tend to hang out in Block / Watch Hill area.
 
Oct 27, 2019
7
Pearson 36-2 Ct
Greg, how difficult was it to loosen the copper CB pipes? Did you have to use a little heat on them?
We're going to plan a trip to Nantucket next year. May stop in Block along the way.
 

NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
3,148
Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
They all came apart pretty easily. Chanel lock on pipe and wrench on union.... like I said I replaced all Unions for this project using ss.....