1984 Hunter 22 - rehab questions

[stevej00]

Hi there...this is my first post here.

I just aquired a 22' 1984 Hunter, fixed keel. This is my first mono hull. I currently and previsously have had a number of crafts, power (6), paddle (2), a sail board and a catamaran.

This model seems like it will be a great boat.

My 9 y.o. son and I went to do our initial visit yesterday.

Uhh-Ohh...she sunk in the stand with rain water. The rear cockpit was holding about 10" of water...below there was about another 6" of water above the floor level...all of the storage compartments were holding a good amount od water and so far as I could tell up under the cockpit was looking full too.

Both sails were on the boat. We raised them and they appear fine and the stiching seemed to be in good shape.

So far there only seem to be a few issues at hand that I need to get under control..

Rain water entering the boat..

Bilge pump

New Battery and charger and solar maintainer.

A lot of TLC clean up and a wet sand / compound / waxing of the hull and top sides.

A lot of lubing

New haylards and vang sheets.

replacing a top rotten lam section of the tiller arm.


One of the bigger items I'll have to contend with will be replacing the bulkheads between the forward berth and the main galley/salon area. These babies were ROTTEN...I probably could have pushed my finger through them.

MY BIG QUESTION...from a construction stand point...can these be starboard and still provide structural stabilty for the stay anchor plates ?

The floor boards were shot as well but these in starboard will not be a problem.

Another Q...this may sound really dumb...how taboo would it be if I installed a main / seasonal drain plug through the hull ?


Thanks for reading and any tips or suggestions or refernces you may have.

 

[RichB]

Welcome Steve,
It looks like water inside the cabin is your first problem. Then tackle the bulkhead. The bulkhead provides stiffness to the hull under dynamic forces of sail. Any material will work as long as it won't buckle. Using Starboard and strengthening it at the edges with a mortised 2x2 cap may work well. Before drilling a new hole through the hull, I would ascertain the source of the leak(s). The thru-hull shouldn't normally be necessary. Did you mean that the boat was in the water yesterday. You might taste it to see if it is salty. (just to be sure it is rainwater).
Keep in touch on this forum. There are some fine people here that have great ideas.
ALSO.... search for previous posts regarding your issues.
Again, Welcome.
Rich B. ( h23, Quintessence)

 

[RichB]

BTW. Forgot to say.
Keeping the standard cockpit drain clean is a pain, unless you are collecting rainwater to drink or for your garden (trailer sailor). Sometimes my wife just reaches in and scrapes away the junk.... voila, 5 to 10 gallons unadulterated water for the garden. Check the cockpit for old screw holes etc. Could be a source of leaks.
On the h23, here are two hoses that are a major source. That cockpit drain hose and the anchor locker drain.
Good hunting.... RichB

 

[LDM]

Welcome as a new H22 owner. Our '81 was purchased in April and the cockpit was the only thing not holding water. I have replaced or re-sealed all ports and put new hoses on the scupper drains. No leaks now. It doesn't seem that you are intimidated by a little work. Keep us posted, we may need your ideas. And if we can help, that's why we are here.

 

[hellerjo]

water leaks

I am also a new owner of a 84 h22.
I took in water. not as much as you, but it is very annoying.
I tasted the water and it was not salty.
I got in the boat and had my wife run a hose all over the boat. the water was coming in from the front hatch and the 2 opening ports.
I am leaving for FL in a couple of days so I don't have time to caulk the leaks. So I am covering the boat with a tarp for the winter.
when I come back in april I will attend to the leaks.
Since I bought the boat I have only sailed the boat 3 times.
I love this boat- sails very well, and responds great.
Good luck with your leaks.
Joe

 

[stevej00]

Thanks for the welcomes and info. I went down Friday and pumped the rest of the boat out. With an elec 1/6 hp utlility pump and a 5/8" hose it must have been pumping for 15-20 minutes...enough that I got bored waiting and used the water to wash the cockpit.

I need to read up on stepping the mast which does not look to be too big of a deal. I furgure it will need to come down the rebuild the bulkheads. With the stay plates I'm going to extend the bolts and make a horizontal style cleat incase there is any egging out of the holes in the starboad.

What puzzled me is that the two rearward bilge areas do not drain into the low point of the boat.

THESE TWO AREAS WERE FULL...so I am looking there first while scoping the entire boat.

For bilge pump setups...It looks like I will need three pumps or drill cross drain holes which I don't like doing.

It really seems as though this boat is coming down to a lot of TLC....I'm pretty excited about that.

Take care and happy thanksgiving.

 

[stevej00]

BTW. Forgot to say.
Keeping the standard cockpit drain clean is a pain, unless you are collecting rainwater to drink or for your garden (trailer sailor). Sometimes my wife just reaches in and scrapes away the junk.... voila, 5 to 10 gallons unadulterated water for the garden. Check the cockpit for old screw holes etc. Could be a source of leaks.
On the h23, here are two hoses that are a major source. That cockpit drain hose and the anchor locker drain.
Good hunting.... RichB

While I am leaving the boat(s) out for the season or when the leaves are falling I usually try to leave an old scrub or push broom on top of the drain to keep some of the crud from clogging the drains.

I DID NOTICE (forgot to mention in the other reply) that it's possible that the water got so hi in the cockpit that it filled up to the shorepower recepticle and overflowed into the boat...need to explore that further before I run with that idea.

 

[scott21050]

Steve,

Wow that is a lot of water!!
I have a Hunter 22 and had leaks from the top. I sealed everthing I could find that came throught the deck. I still had some water getting in. I was reworking the entry hatch and found the hatch slides had pulled out the screws attaching it to the cabin roof. I removed it and the holes were broken out. I repaired then and reattached the slides with 4200 and no screws. NO leaks, boy that was a great day. My cabin has been dry ever since.

Good luck,

Scott

 

[CraigV]

My H22 also has rotten bulkheads and my number one project this winter is replacing them.

I have unstepped my mast and removed the port bulkhead. It wasn't too difficult once i realized that the rotten wood had expanded around the chainplate bolts. however, I am having a tough time with the starboard one. I have removed all the hardware but the bulkhead itself appears to be locked in place by the fiberglass interior and deck. This seems like it would also make installing the new one very difficult as well.

Have you had any luck removing or replacing the starboard bulkhead? Any suggestions?

 

[LDM]

Steve, CraigV has some great advice and pictures on a post on the first page of this forum. "rehab notes: 1984 H22" He learned a lot from January 3rd to the 18th and I am grateful because this is my next project also. Click on his link for excellent pictures.

 

[rickk31]

Steve,I have a 85 22 hunter. Mine has a drain about 2" high on each side of the cockpit that drains into the bilge when the floor drains are cloged up. Whe I bought mine it was parked under a tree for 3 years and had over a foot of water in it.I am like you on the bilge pumps. It needs 2 or 3 pumps. (poor engineering)After a lot of work I am really enjoying it