1979 C22 Curtains

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Jun 29, 2011
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Catalina 22 Alum Creek SP
I am the furthest thing from a tailor but I really need a solution for curtains other than beach towels.

Are their some creative ideas out there? I am holding out for the blinds on Cat-Dir but I'd like to do something about the exposed interior until then.

Thanks!!!
 
Oct 17, 2011
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Ericson 29 Southport..
I'm not sure about your sewing skills, and I wouldn't admit this to many, but I made mine. I have the exact dimensions, (because I catalog everything), if you care for them. It really isn't hard, just bearing in mind that the windows are tapered, and so will the curtains if ya want them to look right. I made small teak blocks for the hangers, and just bought off the shelf rods to put on/in them. Unless you have somebody help you from the inside, or out, to put screws through the cabin liner, you will have to epoxy them on. I used epoxy. The cabin is WAY too thin in that area to try and screw it from inside, you WILL end up with a ragged screw sticking through it. The other simple option in my opinion is velcro fastening. That's the way the fore peak curtains are in my other boat, (not a Cat), and it works rather well..
 
Jun 29, 2011
31
Catalina 22 Alum Creek SP
Yeah, I'd wouldn't mind taking a look at the plans. I have a very skilled Mother-in-Law that could probably knock it out easily and I like to give her an op to earn.

I have rods in place which look factory installed. I will look for slides or whatever was originally there to actually connect the curtain to the rod.

Thansk,
Patrick
 

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Aug 14, 2011
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Catalina C22 Kenmore, WA
An extremely easy method is just using wire for a rod - like braided 16-18 gauge, crimp on eyelets on each end, screw into teak/mahogany blockes and you got a rod. You can get the wire in white, black, blue, etc.
Sew your curtains using a dowel or something that you can remove, slide onto your new wire "rod" and your done. I have used that method to put curtains in my westy vanagon which have help up flawlessly for years.
Paul
 
Feb 9, 2008
292
Catalina 22 Long Beach Harbor, MS
Five years ago, my wife obtained some fabric that was white, outdoor/uv resistant of some type. We were trailering to Destin FL and in a rush to make them. She removed the plastic slides from the old ones, used the existing curtains as a pattern. For a quick and intended temporary fix, used the iron on tape to "sew" the edges, and sewed the plastic slides on. I am still using them, and have taken them down and washed. Still going and looking good, having never sewn the edges. This method did not require a sewing machine. I am sure one can still obtain the slides, if don't have the old ones. If not, C Pattersons measurements will be of great help. The velcro sounds quick and easy, too.
 
Oct 17, 2011
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Ericson 29 Southport..
O.K., to start with, the aft window is 31 1/2" in length, the forward window is 32 1/2" in length. But this is almost irrelevant. The bolts of common material is in yards, so at 36" wide, this is about right for the length, as you will/should be hemming it, and the curtain should be "bunched up" a little, as most are, because a curtain stretched straight across looks, well, not right. Look at any curtain in a home.
On hems, double hem everything. If you don't, it looks like some rookie attempt, and although it may be just that, I try and make it not seem so. If you don't know, a double hem is just that, doubled. Fold it on the edge one half of an inch, iron it down, fold it again, and iron it again. It will be difficult to do if you don't iron it, just trust me on that one. You will note from the aforementioned measurements that that will take up an inch on each side, two total on your 36", leaving 34", which is about right for the Catalina window length.
I used a common 7/16' inch diameter rod, so I just single hem the top, fold it down 2 1/2", so again, you've "lost" 3" of material there. Once it is sewn at the bottom of this 2 1/2" inches, sew a straight line down the middle of this loop at top, so your rod, wire, whatever you use to suspend this with, (yes, wire works great), because that leaves some material on top of the rod, instead of just looping over it. It's just conventional curtain technique. And there's no use in it looking like you were sitting in the basement, while drunk, building this. And while we probably are, we're making every attempt to disguise this fact..
O.K., the fun part. As you know, the windows are tapered, and so should be the curtain. You should already have the loop sewn at top, so THE CUT LENGTH should be as followed. From the center of the rod, forward window, front of boat, 10 1/2"; rear of forward window, 13"; 13" front of aft window, (because they should match up), and the rear will be 15 1/2". Double hemmed at the bottom of course, and this should hang about right in the old style Cat.

I went to JoAnns fabrics here in Wilmington and found a nice nautical themed fabric for this, it had sailing ships, compasses, and crap like that on them, for about nine bucks a yard. Buy 3 yards. If you've done some rough math on this, you may be thinking, "I can do this with two". No, you can't. Save yourself two trips to the fabric store and get 3 yards. Those tapers on this will lose some cloth. And at the price of a decent pizza.
One more thing. don't fear the Singer. These are not technological marvels, it's a machine, with directions. Nobody is going to be on your boat counting stitch lengths. And if the village idiot can do it, (me), it can't be that difficult...
 

caguy

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Sep 22, 2006
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Catalina, Luger C-27, Adventure 30 Marina del Rey
Yeah, I'd wouldn't mind taking a look at the plans. I have a very skilled Mother-in-Law that could probably knock it out easily and I like to give her an op to earn.

I have rods in place which look factory installed. I will look for slides or whatever was originally there to actually connect the curtain to the rod.

Thansk,
Patrick
The C27 I think has the same slides. I didn't like the pleated curtain look that was stock. I used the same tracks to hold my new drapes. I made the drapes all the same length since there wasn't that big a difference on the C27 front to back. I basically gathered them on the tracks. When you do that they need to be 1 1/2 the length of the windows. That gives it a nice pleat without bunching.
I used some 1" aluminum spacers that I found in the garage. They worked out perfectly.
If you want further instructions on sewing the curtains pm me.
Hope this helps,
Frank
 

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Dec 5, 2011
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Catalina Catalina 22 13632 Phenix City
Thanks for all the info on your curtain project Mr. Patterson. I still have the original plastic curtain tracks on my boat and had acquired a gift sewing machine a couple of years ago. It's been sitting collecting dust in the house and I had no interest in it till I bought my boat. Right now I've been playing around with a bunch of Sunbrella fabric scraps making exterior covers for the lights, teak, winches, etc.. Like you said, they don't have to be pretty, (and the aren't), they just have to work, and they do. I'm definitely interested in seeing how others have done their curtains.
 
Mar 8, 2012
446
Catalina 22 trailer sailor
All I had was original blocks with original rusted brackets where someone previously modified the original design. I went to walmart, bought some valance panels and hung them, way too long but will do for a pinch until I decide what to do about curtains. I want a little privacy from the dock walkers (I used to be one). I am also using a matching queen size blue sheet folded over a line strung across for v-berth privacy since my porta-pottie is up there.

Sounds so trailer trash style I know, but it's getting me on the water and as comfortably as can be done.
 

jrowan

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Mar 5, 2011
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O'Day 35 Severn River, Mobjack Bay, Va.
This may not be as classy as installing new curtains, but my P.O. installed some of the self adhesive acrylic window film that lets light in but distorts viewing throught it. It gives U privacy, while allowing light through in a cabin that always needs it. It will never grow mold or need cleaning, & when tired of it, peel it off. Its also a lot cheaper, & an easy, quick fix, till U hone your sewing skills. If U look at my pics on my page I believe there's some images of it. I thought it was a lil cheesy at first, but have grown to like it.
 

jrowan

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Mar 5, 2011
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O'Day 35 Severn River, Mobjack Bay, Va.
Sounds like a capital idea! I like the idea of opaque windows.
ps. I also always dock my boat bow in. Its a lot easier then reversing in, & gives you a heck of a lot more privacy from the dock walkers (as I'm one of 'em too). You also get better breazes blowing into the cabin if your stern is facing the open water. Cheers.
 
Mar 8, 2012
446
Catalina 22 trailer sailor
A friend had offered to ask his dad if I could have an outboard that didn't have reverse, he asked me if I needed reverse, I never thought about backing in a slip and told him I would back the boat out of a slip using the ropes, I agree with the bow in docking concept for those very reasons.
 
Sep 2, 2011
1,041
Hunter 27 Cherubini Alum Creek State Park
Thanks to Paul, Chris, and Frank for ideas on how to do this curtain project.

I got nylon standoffs at the hardware and used wire for the rods. The curtain fabric is an old canvas drop cloth with a very "unique" design. In between the windows I used shelving clips to keep the wire from sagging.
 

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Oct 17, 2011
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Ericson 29 Southport..
Bill, I'm curious, did you put nuts on the outside of the cabin? Most of that area is thin as eggshell...
 

caguy

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Sep 22, 2006
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Catalina, Luger C-27, Adventure 30 Marina del Rey
Nice job Gorilla, thank God for opposable thumbs!
 
Sep 2, 2011
1,041
Hunter 27 Cherubini Alum Creek State Park
Bill, I'm curious, did you put nuts on the outside of the cabin? Most of that area is thin as eggshell...
No, do you think I should? I used the standoff as a drill-stop to control the depth. The screws are only in about 1/4".
 
Oct 17, 2011
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Ericson 29 Southport..
Oh, I don't know. I don't really think it'll pull a 1/4" screw out, just a curtain. I was just kind of curious if you did. When I've done windows, I just noticed how thin it was, and was hesitant to try a screw. Cool curtains though man..
 
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