Can anyone tell me the length of the fore stay on my H27 (1975)?
Also any recommendations on a furler and head sail size?
Thanks
Also any recommendations on a furler and head sail size?
Thanks
1975 H27 Fore stay length.
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How accurate do you need to be? If you are replacing it before adding a furler then you need to take it down and have the new one made to the exact size. For a new furler to go over the forestay then the "I" is probably sufficient as in:
http://hunter.sailboatowners.com/in...id=16&Itemid=888&brand=Hunter&bmodel=27_75-84 . I think it was 37' 6" . I expect that a recommendation for a furler could also be found in the "Boat Info" or in "Search". I can't help, my 1979 still has the original Hyde and I couldn't recommend that even if they were still made.
http://hunter.sailboatowners.com/in...id=16&Itemid=888&brand=Hunter&bmodel=27_75-84 . I think it was 37' 6" . I expect that a recommendation for a furler could also be found in the "Boat Info" or in "Search". I can't help, my 1979 still has the original Hyde and I couldn't recommend that even if they were still made.
Hmm, This is timley. I have a 1975 Hunter and in responce to another post a while back, I measuerd my forestay layed out on the ground and and it was somerwhere between 34'-11" 35'-8" - I dont remember why I had two dimensions other than I was by myself. My mast was 33'-1' . I just brought my jib to a sailmaker and quote measurements were as follows - I=34.5', J 11.5' P=29 E =10'
I guess either the earliest boats were odd, or it was modified. My boat has the old Hyde also.
I guess either the earliest boats were odd, or it was modified. My boat has the old Hyde also.
Re- knowing/checking forestay length before installing a furler--
It is ALWAYS better to be SLIGHTLY too short when the furler assembly is ordered/installed. This is better than being slightly too long, because once it's too long, you can't shorten it. BUT-- when/if it shows up too short you MUST add the necessary shackle to bring it to where it should be. I've seen a hundred boats that were wrong either one way or the other-- the ones too long end up with vicious headstay sag, because someone didn't take up on the after shrouds and backstay to increase the rake; the ones too short end up with what looks like (and sometimes actually is) FORWARD rake-- and I can't imagine what the mast compression must be like as someone tightens everything else up to try and pull the masthead aft.
When sending the job out to a professional rigger/sailmaker to install the furler, this is why it's best to keep the old headstay! Stick to what you know-- as Alexander Pope has said, 'Whatever IS is right.'
JC2
It is ALWAYS better to be SLIGHTLY too short when the furler assembly is ordered/installed. This is better than being slightly too long, because once it's too long, you can't shorten it. BUT-- when/if it shows up too short you MUST add the necessary shackle to bring it to where it should be. I've seen a hundred boats that were wrong either one way or the other-- the ones too long end up with vicious headstay sag, because someone didn't take up on the after shrouds and backstay to increase the rake; the ones too short end up with what looks like (and sometimes actually is) FORWARD rake-- and I can't imagine what the mast compression must be like as someone tightens everything else up to try and pull the masthead aft.
When sending the job out to a professional rigger/sailmaker to install the furler, this is why it's best to keep the old headstay! Stick to what you know-- as Alexander Pope has said, 'Whatever IS is right.'
JC2
Re-- furler recommendation--
For what it's worth I would always advise against any furler that doesn't let you change sails on the fly-- or remove the headsail in the event of a storm or some other urgency. Many, if not all, jibs these days can be had with luff tape rather than hanks (I have one that was converted TO hanks... go figure). A furler that lets you change sails allows you to experiment with what's best to have on there. I would suggest something in the range of 135/150. Anything longer (i.e., the 170 that once was de rigueur with '70s headsail furlers) becomes a nuisance in any conditions it's not ideal for. Anything smaller makes you wonder why you put on a furler at all.
A suit of sails might include a 100/110, a 135, 150 and possibly one bigger. They can all be had with luff tape and flown in the furler.
I also strongly recommend double headsail halyards ESPECIALLY with a furler. So many people forget that once the primary furler sail is hoisted, the halyard sits for what seems like forever with the same crease over the masthead sheave and the same bends round the bottom ones and the winch, stopper and cleat. Since it never moves from this setting these areas wear like crazy and the likelihood of failure is increased. Having two halyards allows you to regularly change which one is on the furler and to replace or service one while the other is in use. Also, having a single halyard makes the very-likely catastrophe that much more of a catastrophe because you then have no remedy and must sail baldheaded in conditions that can cause halyard failure... you get the picture.
Our little Diana actually has four forward-- two headsail halyards, the spinnaker halyard, and the pole lift which is mounted high enough and strongly enough to use for flying a small jib (like on a cutter). Any of these can be used to bail us out in a catastrophe.
JC2
For what it's worth I would always advise against any furler that doesn't let you change sails on the fly-- or remove the headsail in the event of a storm or some other urgency. Many, if not all, jibs these days can be had with luff tape rather than hanks (I have one that was converted TO hanks... go figure). A furler that lets you change sails allows you to experiment with what's best to have on there. I would suggest something in the range of 135/150. Anything longer (i.e., the 170 that once was de rigueur with '70s headsail furlers) becomes a nuisance in any conditions it's not ideal for. Anything smaller makes you wonder why you put on a furler at all.
A suit of sails might include a 100/110, a 135, 150 and possibly one bigger. They can all be had with luff tape and flown in the furler.
I also strongly recommend double headsail halyards ESPECIALLY with a furler. So many people forget that once the primary furler sail is hoisted, the halyard sits for what seems like forever with the same crease over the masthead sheave and the same bends round the bottom ones and the winch, stopper and cleat. Since it never moves from this setting these areas wear like crazy and the likelihood of failure is increased. Having two halyards allows you to regularly change which one is on the furler and to replace or service one while the other is in use. Also, having a single halyard makes the very-likely catastrophe that much more of a catastrophe because you then have no remedy and must sail baldheaded in conditions that can cause halyard failure... you get the picture.
Our little Diana actually has four forward-- two headsail halyards, the spinnaker halyard, and the pole lift which is mounted high enough and strongly enough to use for flying a small jib (like on a cutter). Any of these can be used to bail us out in a catastrophe.
JC2
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