1971 Coronado 35' Cc Yacht Specialties Steering

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Feb 10, 2013
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Beneteau 38s5 First Trinidad
Hi,

I own a 1971 35' Coronado Center Cockpit Hull 07 produced by Whitaker Industries at Costa Mesa, Ca. She was bought and registered in the Great Lakes of Canada until the passing of the original owner. Registered name is WINDOM. She was then shipped to Vancouver on the west coast of Canada to the son of the original owner in 1996. He retained but did not really use the boat and sold it to one "Juan Palades" from Madrid, Spain, a Spanish journalist that was doing an update journal of the Spanish explorers of the islands off British Columbia. Not so coincidental is that the strait to the east of Vancouver Island is named "PALADES STRAIT". He soon realized the extent of his project and completed it largely by float plane as he reported it to me. He sold the boat to me after about 6 months of ownership and I have owned WINDOM since 2000.

Currently I have the boat in drydock in Trinidad W.I. doing various projects and preparing to get her to Europe in the spring. I originally restored her to ply the rivers and canals of
Europe because of her 4' draft and 10' beam and 35' mast which can be supported on deck.

One of the projects that has developed is that the cable end to the rack was taken out to get the cable out of the way when removing the Universal diesel for service. At that time the rack spit out a plastic piece with some markings on it. When the cable end was reinserted in the rack and stopped with the retainer bolts the rack will no longer push the cable to starboard and has a crunching sound inside when the wheel is turned. I have checked the system and all is in good condition and well greased. But the rack spline or gearing configuration that is turned by the chain and sprocket from the pedestal is not known to me and does not appear capable of much service although I have not yet disassembled it. The pedestal base has a marking on it showing YACHT SPECIALTIES CO. I understand this co. no longer exists so spare parts will be non existent.

If there is anyone that would have any knowledge of the rack configurations and their ability to be serviced I would appreciate any help I could get. Any help or suggestions would be gratefully received.

Cal
 
Aug 2, 2011
90
Newport 30 MKIII Madeira Beach, FL
Can't help you. Just wanted to say I owned a 27 Coronado years ago. A rock solid boat. Good luck.

Len
Windborne
 
Oct 14, 2005
2,191
1983 Hunter H34 North East, MD
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Owned a Coronado 27 also. It travelled from Sausalito to the Chesapeake Bay on its own bottom. Thought now to be in the Bahamas. Solid boat! Had a Cor 35 as a dock mate for over a year but didn't do any work on it.

You need to track down Doug Ward on the Columbia Owners website. He has a Coronado 45 in Long Beach Harbor and was a foreman with Columbia/Coronado out there and built many of them. He's the closest thing to an expert in these boats that I know of.
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Fed up w/ personal attacks I'm done with SBO
That gets two WOW's from me

WOW #1
It turns out I originally installed your steering system. Yep, I worked at Columbia/Coronado in Costa Mesa in 1971 and was the plumber/steering specialist on the Coronado 35 line. How 'bout dat?? It was the only boat I ever saw with a rack and pinion - push-pull steering system and that covers hundreds of boats over four manufacturers.

WOW #2

As you've no doubt learned, finding replacement parts on the shelf is a futile endeavor. I think you're left with two options: get the parts you need cu$tom made or search the salvors relentlessly. Try Minney's in Newport Beach, CA, UsedSailboatParts.com, Sailboat Junkyard in Long Beach, CA and Don's Marine Salvage in Florida. I'm sure there are others.

Don't quote me on this but I suspect the Coronado 41 and maybe the Columbia 45 might have used the same steering system. Might want to research that to broaden the potential for salvage parts.

Take on the personality of a vulture. Hurricanes provide a wealth of used boat parts and all you need to do is find an enterprising dismantler in a recent hurricane area. That's how I bought my complete Edson steering system (formerly tiller steered) and self tailing winches.
 
Jul 1, 1998
3,062
Hunter Legend 35 Poulsbo/Semiahmoo WA
Edson bought Yacht Specialities

…. and their parts. However, it is my understanding they didn't plan to reproduce any of them when they ran out.

Used boat equipment, ahem, correction here. Make that "previously owned equipment" store in Seattle: http://www.secondwave.cc
 
Feb 10, 2013
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Beneteau 38s5 First Trinidad
WOWS from me too Neil. You installed a great system with lots of grease nipples and all.
I have now disassembled the rack and found that I made the mistake of putting undersized retainer bolts in when I reattached the cable housing to the rack. Disasterous since it twisted and kinked the cable. However, this system is beautifully made like many of the other mechanical systems in the boat. I am hoping to find a rigger or machine shop that can supply and swage a new cable into the push pull casing. The only drawback to the cable system is the cable loop through the engine room. It is somewhat in the way when doing maintenance etc. Other than that this thing was built to last - 41 years and running. It would have gone another 40 if I hadn't screwed it up.
Oh well, if I can't get it repaired there is always a hydraulic system to consider which would get rid of that cumbersome long cable housing. Bye the bye and a bit off topic would a linear drive autopilot be compatible with a hydraulic system containing a bypass valve?
 
Jan 22, 2008
880
Fed up w/ personal attacks I'm done with SBO
Having no experience with such systems I cannot answer your autopilot question with any authority.

If you decide to go hydraulic (I LOVE the idea) and you're not averse to assembling your own system you should know that Minney's in Newport Beach has several systems and components on their shelves in new or like new condition at greatly reduced prices.

You know, don'tcha, that your hull is actually a Columbia 34 with a bustle added? We (the same crew and assembly line) also built Columbia 34's and Coronado 30's, the only line in the company that built different models.
 
Oct 17, 2011
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Ericson 29 Southport..
Bye the bye and a bit off topic would a linear drive autopilot be compatible with a hydraulic system containing a bypass valve? -quote-

I'm pretty sure Hynautics steering does just that. Just got through putting one on a Hunter 420. Nice equipment.
 
Feb 10, 2013
12
Beneteau 38s5 First Trinidad
Chris, thanks for your input. Curious if you used copper in your install and why manufacturers all seem to recommend copper. With a center cockpit that will need a run of pipe in very compact circumstances flexible hose is required. Are there flexible hoses that receive top ratings? If you could describe your install that would be super.

Neil, I didn't know it was a Columbia 34 hull but every now and then I get a comment,"isn't that a Columbia?" The hydraulic system is an idea but the hose runs are problematic. Wish I could get to Minnys but from Trinidad that is not likely. Thanks for thw suggestion.
 
Oct 17, 2011
2,809
Ericson 29 Southport..
Copper hell. Not on a bet. Boats are dynamic, copper likes static. Poor mix. I would like to have a dollar a foot for every leaking copper WATER line I've drug out of somebodies boat.

Anyway, I use a one wire hydraulic hose with two piece hydraulic connections. Easy to route, (bearing in mind it's hydraulic hose), and when you get your length, cut it and put the end on right there. No use to drag it all back out and take into the shop for a crimp connect. A two wire crimp connector MIGHT be better, but what a pain in the ass. I don't have time for that. And it's not field serviceable.
I considered on this one using braided stainless teflon tubing, basically aircraft stuff. The boat is an offshore traveller so it was a contender. But the ratings, and the simplicity won out. For a world cruiser, just small lengths of hose for the repairs is all you need, the ends are reuseable. But it'll be a helluva long time before that's needed..
 
Oct 14, 2005
2,191
1983 Hunter H34 North East, MD
Correction...

Old Skool Neil made me realize Doug Ward has a Columbia 45 in Long Beach, not a Coronado.

Also to note: The Cor 27 is a Columbia 26 with a full top lid and an outboard well added to the stern.
 
Jan 22, 2008
880
Fed up w/ personal attacks I'm done with SBO
The Columbia/Coronado cloning goes beyond the previously mentioned 34/35 and 26/27:

Columbia 39 = Coronado 41 center cockpit
Columbia 43 = Columbia 45 center cockpit
Columbia 30 = Coronado 32 center cockpit
Columbia 26 interior = Coronado 27 interior (identical, from the same mold)

And that just covers the early 70's
 
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