16A breakers

[roadkill1964]

Hi, I’m new to this forum. I’m searching for 16A breakers from my 1990 Beneteau M38. Would anyone know of the source of new or used ones?
Here is the pic of what I’m looking for.

Thank you for any information you may have, and again ….hello

 

[Timm R Oday25]

From the photo it appears you want a 6 amp breaker made from E T A . several online sources have them listed for $12-14 dollars .

 

[roadkill1964]

Here is a another pic including label from one of the breakers, it shows 16A.

 

[dlochner]

It looks like the boat was originally wired for 220v AC. Is this the main breaker?

 

[capta]

I also think it says 6 amp, which is much more likely than 16. It is possible Europeans have another rating system for electricity, so it is possible it is 16 something other than amps.

 

[roadkill1964]

No, they are bank of 20 that control my DC systems at my nav station, main breakers are in aft cabin

 

[Timm R Oday25]

Not all breakers will the same . The G10 WT05 is a legitimate part number from the Manufacturer E T A . The first breaker you showed appears to be listed at a 6 amp max . What circuit does the brealer in the first photo protect ?

 

[mikeracca]

Europe measures current the same as we do in the US. They may have different regulations but an amp is an amp wherever you go.

As for the breakers, don’t assume they are all the same. They may look the same on the outside, mine sure do but I have 15a, 30a, 20a and 8a on my board, but they all look the same. Different ratings for different internal components. Each circuit should be evaluated individually for the correct breaker size.

 

[Scott T-Bird]

The breaker in the photo says E-T-A right on it (upside down on the white area), so I would go there for replacement. The orange label stuck to the back of the panel clearly says 16A, which would make perfect sense for a 12V system. Breakers in a US system are typically 15A in our panels, so virtually no difference. I'd guess that 6A breakers could be suitable for a 24V system if they typically do that for a European Beneteau. Or, the 6A breaker in the other photo could simply be installed for a devise with a small load. If the wire gauge is 16 AWG, I don't suppose it matters ... the breaker would trip before the wire is compromised. If the load is small enough the breaker never needs to trip.

The only wire coming off the 6A breaker seems to be very small. I'd guess it is not 16 AWG (or european equivalent?).

 

[Stu Jackson]

main breakers are in aft cabin

Beneteau has the battery switches (2 red, one black) in the aft cabin. If this is what you are referring to,, they are not breakers unless somebody changed what's on your boat.

 

[rgranger]

 

[mermike]

That looks like an AC breaker. Fine if it's on an AC circuit. Not fine if it's on a DC circuit. There's a reason they're rated differently, having to do with arc length among other things. They're not interchangeable.

 

[Scott T-Bird]

That looks like an AC breaker. Fine if it's on an AC circuit. Not fine if it's on a DC circuit. There's a reason they're rated differently, having to do with arc length among other things. They're not interchangeable.

What's indicating that it is an AC Breaker?

 

[mermike]

What's indicating that it is an AC Breaker?

It says AC250V right after the amperage rating on the label. If it was DC compatible it would list the DC voltage rating. Many (Most? All?) of the Blue Sea breakers are rated for both but it is common for the DIN rail Euro breakers to be rated for one or the other.

 

[Timm R Oday25]

Scott .if you look at the very first picture closely it says 6 A AC 250 Volt . That's a standard rating classification. I highly doubt the boat is a 24 volt system . None of the standard electronics would work easily . Yes the current used by europeans is differant on shore .I'm quite sure once we leave land most all is 12 volts . I could very easily be wrong ...

 

[dlochner]

That looks like an AC breaker. Fine if it's on an AC circuit. Not fine if it's on a DC circuit. There's a reason they're rated differently, having to do with arc length among other things. They're not interchangeable.

Well, Blue Sea has breakers that will work with AC or DC. See below.

I suspect the reason Beneteau uses 6amp and 16 amp breakers is because that is the norm for 220v systems. 16a at 220 is roughly equivalent to 30a at 110 and 6a at 220v is roughly equivalent to 15a at 110.

C-Series - Blue Sea Systems

Magnetic hydraulic circuit breakers that combine switching and circuit protection into a single device.

www.bluesea.com

 

[Scott T-Bird]

It says AC250V right after the amperage rating on the label. If it was DC compatible it would list the DC voltage rating. Many (Most? All?) of the Blue Sea breakers are rated for both but it is common for the DIN rail Euro breakers to be rated for one or the other.

Huh ... I love getting new info in these posts. @roadkill1964 pretty clearly indicates that this is a DC panel ... is it feasible that Beneteau would install the panel this way, or is it more likely that this is an owner modification from the past? I think I'd be inclined to change out the whole thing. I have a love affair with Blue Sea systems anyway ...

 

[mermike]

Well, Blue Sea has breakers that will work with AC or DC. See below.

I suspect the reason Beneteau uses 6amp and 16 amp breakers is because that is the norm for 220v systems. 16a at 220 is roughly equivalent to 30a at 110 and 6a at 220v is roughly equivalent to 15a at 110.

C-Series - Blue Sea Systems

Magnetic hydraulic circuit breakers that combine switching and circuit protection into a single device.

www.bluesea.com

Yes, I edited my post to include the fact that Blue Sea breakers are typically rated for both. The breaker in the picture in inappropriate for the application, regardless of voltage.

 

[dlochner]

Yes, I edited my post to include the fact that Blue Sea breakers are typically rated for both. The breaker in the picture in inappropriate for the application, regardless of voltage.

Why is it inappropriate?

 

[Scott T-Bird]

Scott .if you look at the very first picture closely it says 6 A AC 250 Volt . That's a standard rating classification. I highly doubt the boat is a 24 volt system . None of the standard electronics would work easily . Yes the current used by europeans is differant on shore .I'm quite sure once we leave land most all is 12 volts . I could very easily be wrong ...

Yes, I agree that a 24V system is really unlikely. I only thought that at first because of the 6A rating. But then I noticed that it was the only breaker that seemed to have only a very small wire gauge. Can't tell though from a photo ....