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  1. dscribner

    dscribner

    Joined Nov 9, 2008
    1,307 posts, 30 likes
    Lancer 25
    US Biddeford, Maine
    I really wanted to talk about something simple and easy, like religion or Trump, but lets do this.

    I'm considering upgrading my hook. Ive used an oversized Danforth (a real one) for forever. Danforths have amazing holding power, placing in the upper echelon of many tests, but let the wind swing you and . . . not so much. They tend to skip and tumble, not reset. So I'm looking at next gen anchors. Anybody have any opinions on the subject? The anchor would need to be in the 20 pound range and be manageable enough to store below. An all-chain rode is not an option ( and studies show is not required) . My boat is presently a Lancer 25 but in the next year or two, will miraculously become an O'day 272 or 302.

    Any body want to weigh in?
     


  2. Alansails

    Alansails

    Joined Oct 3, 2011
    472 posts, 32 likes
    Anam Cara Catalina 310 Hull #155
    US Lake Erie/Catawba Island
    we went from a Danforth that came with the boat to a Manson Supreme. We had a bad Danforth expierence in Florida and when we got our boat after much research and depending on your holding bottom-Manson Supreme-and it has not let us down.
     


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  3. Kings Gambit

    Kings Gambit

    Joined Jul 27, 2011
    2,228 posts, 274 likes
    Bavaria 38E
    US Ventura Harbor


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  4. shemandr

    shemandr

    Joined Jan 1, 2006
    2,868 posts, 209 likes
    Marblehead Skiff 14'
    US Greenport, NY Greenport, NY
    Batten down the hatches ...
     


  5. dscribner

    dscribner

    Joined Nov 9, 2008
    1,307 posts, 30 likes
    Lancer 25
    US Biddeford, Maine


  6. ggrizzard

    ggrizzard

    Joined May 27, 2004
    835 posts, 29 likes
    Hunter 1979 30 Cherubini
    US Ponce Inlet FL
    I bought a Mantus. Sets and resets great.
     


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  7. RussC

    RussC

    Joined Sep 11, 2015
    875 posts, 287 likes
    Macgregor 25
    US Vagabond 17. Oregon lakes
    Took the features I liked from several, and designed/built my own. cost me about $20.00 and works like $1K . could not be happier with it.
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  8. seadaddler

    seadaddler

    Joined Dec 19, 2006
    5,034 posts, 77 likes
    Hunter 36
    US Punta Gorda
    I got 35lb Mantus for my H-36 and works fantastic and grabs fast and like cement.
    Also lots of chain will always make most anchors do a much better job like a normal Delta and say 50 ft of chain but even better 100 ' of chain any anchor will so much more better job.
    Nick
     


  9. Michael Davis

    Michael Davis

    Joined Jan 5, 2017
    176 posts, 32 likes
    Beneteau First 38
    Ca Saturna Island B.C. Lyall Harbour Saturna Island
    I think I've dragged just about everything at one time or another. Had my best success with a BRUCE. Our current boat has a Bruce, a CQR and a Danforth. Each has it's own bottom preference. Up here on the B.C. coast we have a lot of rocky bottoms that suit the Bruce well.
     


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  10. Rick D

    Rick D

    Joined Jun 14, 2008
    6,297 posts, 108 likes
    Hunter Legend 40.5
    US Long Beach, Shoreline Marina, CA
    Show off ;-)
     


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  11. RussC

    RussC

    Joined Sep 11, 2015
    875 posts, 287 likes
    Macgregor 25
    US Vagabond 17. Oregon lakes
    If ya got it... flaunt it. ;)
     


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  12. Gene Neill

    Gene Neill

    Joined Sep 30, 2013
    1,981 posts, 475 likes
    C-22, Albin Vega
    US central Florida
    I proudly guzzle Mantus Kool-aid.
     


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  13. Mantus 1

    Mantus 1

    Joined May 11, 2016
    13 posts, 1 likes
    Hunter Passage 42
    US Florida Jensen Beach
    Well I mite as well jump in on this post!;)
    I have been boating almost 40 years and over that time I have used many of the anchors out there.
    The reason I started working with Mantus Anchors is the products work! I have never had an anchor set so fast, and stay set like this anchor.
    Take some time and check out some of our video and then check out some other people out there that are doing anchor tests and you will see that we out set and reset better then most.

    www.mantusanchors.com
     


  14. Charlie Jones s/v Tehani

    Charlie Jones s/v Tehani

    Joined Mar 1, 2012
    1,168 posts, 180 likes
    1961 Rhodes Meridian 25
    us Texas coast
    Same here. Coming onto 12,000 cruising miles with this one. 22 pound SL Bruce clone, but I use 70 feet of chain with it. Only place it ever failed to set was Frazer Hogg Key, Berry's. and the cruising guide said anchors wouldn't set there. Like trying to anchor on a concrete slab. I took a mooring..

    I also carry a true Danforth but would never go to sleep with that as the only anchor set, in a tidal situation. Seen them fail to reset too many times.
     

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  15. njlarry

    njlarry

    Joined Sep 23, 2009
    1,191 posts, 82 likes
    O'Day 34-At Last
    US Rock Hall, Md
    Beautiful Maine has such rocky bottoms, your results may vary. I agree all chain is not always necessary. We have 36? pound made in Scotland cqr that has never failed. With just a short length of chain we have been in 25 plus knot winds veering all around and just 6 or 7 scope in crowded anchorages and never dragged. On a club cruise to a small leaf covered bottom other boats with danfors had great difficulty getting set but the old Scott set on the first try. The bay bottom is mostly muck, but on the rocky Maine coast, I be afraid of getting it to break out when it comes time to weigh anchor.
     


  16. Sumner

    Sumner

    Joined Jan 31, 2009
    4,891 posts, 95 likes
    Macgregor 26S/Endeavour 37 .
    US Utah's Canyon Country
    Love the 25 lb. Manson Supreme on the Mac and it has never drug, regardless of the bottom with 30 ft of chain and the rest line. I usually put out more scope than others do, but I'm usually by myself so no problem. Bought a 35 lb. Manson for the Endeavour.

    Or give Russ $40 for his and he would double his money and could make another one :):), Nice job Russ, I might just have to make a backup to the Manson.

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    My second anchor is a 22 lb. bruce and it also worked very well before buying the Manson and drug about 20' one time. Sometimes depending on the weather and where I am I'll put them both down since I don't wake up easy and want to be in the same spot in the morning.

    Only problem with both is they are not well suited to storing below. Why is that a necessity? I do carry also a Fortress FX-11 and they get good reviews but I've never used it yet. I would not go with anything under a 25 lb. for what you want to do if you change to the larger boat unless you can be assured of never being on anchor when a major front blows through,

    Sumner
    ====================================================================
    1300 miles to The Bahamas and Back in the Mac...
    Endeavour 37 Mods...
    MacGregor 26-S Mods...
    Mac Trips to Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Canada, Florida, Bahamas
     


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  17. seadaddler

    seadaddler

    Joined Dec 19, 2006
    5,034 posts, 77 likes
    Hunter 36
    US Punta Gorda
    I have found with my Mantus and 90 ft of chain that I put a lot less scope out and in a crowded anchorage
    is very good and see the Mantus tip its design is what makes the mantus so much better.
    Nick
     


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  18. SFS

    SFS

    Joined Aug 18, 2015
    1,088 posts, 207 likes
    Hunter 31
    US Tampa Bay
    @Sumner - Are those rode bags tied down in some way? I really like the idea, and this is not the first time I've seen that picture, so I thought this time I would ask.
     


  19. Sumner

    Sumner

    Joined Jan 31, 2009
    4,891 posts, 95 likes
    Macgregor 26S/Endeavour 37 .
    US Utah's Canyon Country
    Yes, tied to the pulpit and life lines...

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    Never had a problem in over a thousand miles of cruising. The bitter end of the rode comes out the bottom and also is tied to the pulpit. I didn't ...

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    ... fasten the lid once and in rough seas in the Bahamas the chain started to come out and I had to go forward to take care of that problem. I started with soft-sided bags first but didn't like them as it was harder to stuff the rode into as the sides collapsed. These I love and it is so easy and fast to pull the rode in and just stuff it into the bag and it comes out every time with never a tangle. If conditions are good I can leave the bag open and the rode dries pretty quickly. I anchor almost every night (unless I beach the boat) so having anchor gear that is dependable and easy and fast to use, even single-handed, is very important to me and the bags accomplish that.

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    I also always have the anchor and chain by it secured to a cleat with carabiners and a short line when the anchor is up so they can't go overboard.

    More on the bags here....

    http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor2/rigging-20.html

    Sumner

    =========================================================================
    1300 miles to The Bahamas and Back in the Mac...
    Endeavour 37 Mods...

    MacGregor 26-S Mods...
    Mac Trips to Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Canada, Florida, Bahamas
     


  20. Maine Sail

    Maine Sail Moderator

    Joined Feb 6, 1998
    10,341 posts, 314 likes
    Canadian Sailcraft 36T
    US Casco Bay, ME
    I own or have owned a venerable $hit ton of anchors..

    I currently own:

    Genuine Bruce, CQR's - 2, Fortress - 2, Spade aluminum and Spade steel, Mantus, Rocna, Manson Supreme, Danforth, Supermax, Oceane/Sword.

    I have owned: Delta, Northill, Danforth and Bruce knock offs, and Delta knock-offs.

    My bower/swinging anchors, in order of tested performance in my home waters: Mantus, Rocna, Spade STEEL, Manson Supreme... (These four are all very good performers)

    My stern/directional pull anchor = *Fortress

    *Used to use it as a bow anchor but it almost put us on a solid granite ledge in a wind shift when it un-set and began "skating".

    For the last 1.5 seasons the Rocna has been on the bow but only because it fits our roller "slightly" better than the Mantus does. The Mantus sets and re-sets better than the Rocna (slightly) and eventually I will modify my roller to fit the Mantus.

    In terms of value and performance it is very hard to beat a Mantus..
     


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