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Rudder bearing play on H356 2002yr

Discussion in 'Ask A Hunter Owner' started by Tipsynippertoo, Nov 14, 2017 at 5:30 AM. Add this thread to a FAQ

  1. Tipsynippertoo

    Tipsynippertoo

    Joined Jul 1, 2017
    12 posts, 1 likes
    Hunter 356
    UK Brightlingsea, Essex, UK Brightlingsea
    Hi,
    I am trying to find out whether I have a problem or not!
    Trawling the previous posts on rudder bearing play still has not given me what I need:
    How much play should I have measured at the bottom of the rudder? All the posts I have read do not state where the maximum play is measured. ( "Rudder comes from factory with 3/16 play and will wear a little more".......lifted from a previous post )
    I reckon I have about 1" of movement in all horizontal directions at the base of the rudder measured when the boat is out of the water.
    Any info' gratefully received.
    Neil
     


  2. Rich Stidger

    Rich Stidger

    Joined Feb 10, 2004
    2,599 posts, 148 likes
    Hunter 40.5
    US 1997 h40.5 Bristol, RI
    Yikes! 1" of play? Then I re-read and saw that you measured at the bottom of the rudder. I can't say if that is excessive or not, but early in the life of my h40.5 (about 4-5 years old) I noticed about 3/32-1/8" of play in all directions where the rudder post exits the hull. I never measured at the bottom of the rudder.
    I was at Tidewater Marine at the head of the Chesapeake and they are a prominent Hunter dealer. I spoke to their service people and they looked at it and told me I had nothing to worry about. They told me that some boats have more and some less of the play that I was seeing. Anyway, looking for a second opinion, I called Hunter and spoke to Eddie Breen at length. He assured me exactly the same as the dealer. He recommended to recheck it each year at haul-out and pay attention if the movement increases. I asked about the potential wear on the lower rudder post bearing and he told me they have a design life of 50 years.
    So for the past 15 years I have done exactly that. Result: the play has not increased. I don't detect any abnormality in the steering. It is just the way it is. We just ended our 20th sailing season covering over 16,000 miles in total.
    BTW, I walked around and checked other hunters in the yard. The amount of play was either about like mine or less.
     


    Last edited: Nov 15, 2017 at 11:29 AM
  3. Terry Cox

    Terry Cox

    Joined Dec 25, 2000
    2,817 posts, 161 likes
    Hunter Passage 42
    US Shelter Bay, WA
    Hi Neil, rudders come in differne sizes, so not sure the bottom would be the best place to measure. Our boat is a bit different than yours, but I would suspect the information contained in the article linked below should be close. Rudder post play should be measured between the post and lower bearing.

    Short of replacing the bearing, a marine surveyor offered a solution to reduce play by inserting a piece of teflon sheet cut to wrap the post thus reducing play. You would need to drop the rudder enough to install the teflon sheet done while the boat is on the hard. I've never had a need to do this, but offer it as a suggestion.

    https://hunter.sailboatowners.com/mods.php?task=article&mid=45&aid=6617&mn=42
     


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  4. Rich Stidger

    Rich Stidger

    Joined Feb 10, 2004
    2,599 posts, 148 likes
    Hunter 40.5
    US 1997 h40.5 Bristol, RI
    Terry- Good info, and directly from Hunter.
    Thanks.
     


  5. Terry Cox

    Terry Cox

    Joined Dec 25, 2000
    2,817 posts, 161 likes
    Hunter Passage 42
    US Shelter Bay, WA
    Most welcome, Rich.
     


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  7. Tipsynippertoo

    Tipsynippertoo

    Joined Jul 1, 2017
    12 posts, 1 likes
    Hunter 356
    UK Brightlingsea, Essex, UK Brightlingsea
    Thank you Gents, so from what I am reading the play is lateral play measured at the bearing. I don't think I have a problem in that case.
    Great forum, so nice to get support from other owners.
    Sounds like you are having a ball Rich.....I would like to "cast off", but haven't got there yet! 3yrs to go to 60 & early retirement...unless I bale out sooner! Still not sure a 356 is big enough to live aboard....but it is a bilge keeler, so I can enjoy more shallow waters.
    Neil
     


  8. Terry Cox

    Terry Cox

    Joined Dec 25, 2000
    2,817 posts, 161 likes
    Hunter Passage 42
    US Shelter Bay, WA
    Hi Neil, no live aboard here, but our boat is certainly suited for it. Two and half months is the longest we've spent on board during our extended cruises. One couple here have cruised their Dana 24 for years all over the Pacific ocean. Seems small by my standard, but they make it work.
     



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