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RRS 2017-2020 changes summary

Discussion in 'Racing' started by Jackdaw, Dec 23, 2016. Add this thread to a FAQ

  1. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
    6,511 posts, 803 likes
    Beneteau First 36.7 & 260
    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI


  2. Davidasailor26

    Davidasailor26

    Joined May 17, 2004
    703 posts, 55 likes
    Beneteau Oceanis 37 LE
    US Havre de Grace
    Nice write up. Very helpful to see a summary of the relevant changes like this.

    Ugh. Because mark roundings weren't complicated enough? Now we have different rules depending on the course.
     


  3. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
    6,511 posts, 803 likes
    Beneteau First 36.7 & 260
    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    LOL that's the biggie one far as I'm concerned.

    Won't matter at all for a buoy races, but we do some around the lake distance races, and if we are going counterclockwise will be a real treat next year!
     


  4. JohnShannon

    JohnShannon

    Joined Jan 4, 2010
    543 posts, 32 likes
    Farr 30
    US San Francisco
    what ever happened to mast-abeam?
     


  5. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
    6,511 posts, 803 likes
    Beneteau First 36.7 & 260
    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    Wowza. Gone since when; 1997??

    1997 was actually a HUGE rule year; gone was contact for contacts sake.
     


    Last edited: Dec 26, 2016
  6. JohnShannon

    JohnShannon

    Joined Jan 4, 2010
    543 posts, 32 likes
    Farr 30
    US San Francisco
    Hmm going to have to bone up on that. Three bridge fiasco is coming up 360 boats sailing in any direction they want with varying knowledge of the rules usually in light wind with significant current. I stick to the no contact and avoid big clusters. 3knots of tide can turn what you thought was an roomy rounding into a game of inches.
     


  7. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
    6,511 posts, 803 likes
    Beneteau First 36.7 & 260
    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    Section 2 of the RSS (when boats meet) is now VERY straightforward. It occcupies two lightly spaced pages of the current rule book. Overtaking from clear astern is now very straightforward, with the possible exception of rule #17.

    The new 18.3 might spice that up as well at marks.
     


  8. CloudDiver

    CloudDiver

    Joined Sep 8, 2014
    2,152 posts, 227 likes
    Catalina 22 Swing Keel
    US San Diego San Diego
    I think I'd need another Master's degree to understand all that noise... Luckily, I doubt I need to worry about competitive racing unless I win the lottery. In that case, I'll buy a Pogo... and another just for @Jackdaw to come race me... hey, fair is fair right?
     


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  9. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
    6,511 posts, 803 likes
    Beneteau First 36.7 & 260
    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    Ohhh thats a deal. Good news that with a Pogo you'll never have to worry about other boats (of your length or less) because they soon become dots on the aft horizon!

    [​IMG]
     


  10. Michael Davis

    Michael Davis

    Joined Jan 5, 2017
    152 posts, 21 likes
    Beneteau First 38
    Ca Saturna Island B.C. Lyall Harbour Saturna Island
    Hi Jackdaw
    This is the first pic. of yours that I have been able to see. Your movies are great, everyone elses photos come through but yours are little squares with red X's through them. Any ideas??
    Mike
     


  11. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
    6,511 posts, 803 likes
    Beneteau First 36.7 & 260
    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    @Michael Davis - Weird! Can you see this one? Sometimes I link to images on the web, if the images are taken down (it can happen) the pic will disappear. I know that's happened but its rare.
    markturn.jpg
     


  12. Michael Davis

    Michael Davis

    Joined Jan 5, 2017
    152 posts, 21 likes
    Beneteau First 38
    Ca Saturna Island B.C. Lyall Harbour Saturna Island
    See this just fine! At first I thought it was just yours I couldn't see but I've found a couple more that were the same. Often mixed into older and newer posts. Very curious!
    Mike
     


  13. PaulK

    PaulK

    Joined Dec 1, 2009
    265 posts, 16 likes
    Tillotson Pearson J/36
    US Southport, CT
    Jib looks overtrimmed.
     


  14. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
    6,511 posts, 803 likes
    Beneteau First 36.7 & 260
    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    Yep. Short handed, so its set in upwind mode, so the at the turn the crew can wrestle with the kite and the driver can get right onto his upwind line. One more body and we sheet it in as the boat turns.

    Anyway, because were doing a Windward Drop we turn very deep right before the mark as we take it down. The jib does nothing no matter how it was trimmed ! ;-)
     


    Last edited: Feb 26, 2017

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