Lake Champlain Canal

Oct 7, 2008
378
Oday Oday 35 Chesapeake Bay
Has anyone done the Lake Champlain Canal from NYC to Burlington? Where do you have to take your mast down and when can you put it back up? What is the best way to get your mast up and down?
 
Jan 15, 2012
97
Ericson 28/2 Port Kent
Get the NYS Canal Catalog it has good information about facilities in it. Mast down at Waterford back up at Whitehall. Wave to us, we're the ferry stop across the lake from Burlington.
 
Feb 21, 2010
330
Beneteau 31 016 St-Lawrence river
If you haven't left yet... You will have to stop at Catskill, NY to have the mast taken down by professionals at 4$/foot or at Castleton-on-Hudson to "rent" the club crane for a flat 50$.
I had it done at Hop-O-Nose a month ago and they did a super job... I had left my mast supports there for the winter and got it all back for the trip north.
You will have to bring your mast supports with you: no one offers to build those on site.
Have a good trip.
 
Oct 7, 2008
378
Oday Oday 35 Chesapeake Bay
Thank you. I'm not planning to go until next summer but I just wanted to get some ideas of how it would be done. I was also wondering if the mast needs to come down when going from the north end of the lake to the St. Lawrence.
 
Feb 21, 2010
330
Beneteau 31 016 St-Lawrence river
Yes it does, we (those doing this route frequently) usually leave it down to traverse Lake Champlain and have it raised again in Sorel where the Richelieu flows into the St-Lawrence. Depending on your eventual destination you may wish to go from Waterford to Oswego, on the Erie-Oswego canal, raise the mast, cruise lake Ontario, the Thousand islands (NY and Ontario), sail down-river to Montreal, Québec City or even the Saguenay fjord (see the belugas) turn back to Sorel, lower the mast, go to Waterford through the Richelieu, lake Champlain and the NYS Canal. That's a lot of cruising! From the Chesapeake I'd say 2 to 3 months...
I'm just back in the St-Lawrence at 45°10'N, 074°20'W (if you Google, the boat is at 45.159661,-74.336032) after spending the last nine months cruising the US east coast, the Bahamas and back up the east coast.
Whatever your destination, remember that the cruise starts the day you leave; it's not the destination it's the whole trip.
 
Oct 7, 2008
378
Oday Oday 35 Chesapeake Bay
Love the ideas and thoughts. My dream is to sail in Lake Champlain so I want to put the mast back up when I get there. I visited relatives who live in Burlington last year. We were on a beach in the North part of the lake and I saw Sailboat after Sailboat heading to the northern most part of the lake. I assumed they were going back to Canada. Perhaps not? My greater dream is to head north on the St. Lawrence and circumnavigate Nova Scotia--eventually doing a figure eight of the East Coast. I fully agree the cruise begins when you leave. I have no timeline for this trip and don't expect to complete it in one sitting. Just gotta do it.
 
Feb 21, 2010
330
Beneteau 31 016 St-Lawrence river
OK, I had this thing about Europe... Portugal and Spain, the Azores, the Canaries and the Antillian Arc... took me three years to complete. As you say not in one sitting.
To do what you are talking about you will have to get several cruising guides and charts.
Richardson's, Hudson River and adjacent waterways chartbook (brings you to Sorel)
St-Lawrence River and Québec waterways 2015 (the English version is 32.95$; the French 2017 is 14.95)
Atlas of tidal currents, St-Lawrence river
Cruising guide to the Hudson River, Lake Champlain & St-Lawrence river.

Since you will surely be using electronic charts, You will need only basic charts for the St-Lawrence, the Gulf & Maggies (Magdalen islands), PEI and New Brunswick & Nova Scotia... then Maine &c. My cruising guides for these areas are out of date and my pilot charts are all in French but I think I still have a black & white set of charts for all this area (great as back-ups & planning).
Just so you won't say nobody ever told you be advised that spring tides at Québec City will reach 22 feet and the current under the Pont de Québec will reach 6 knots either way... After Tadoussac it's a piece of cake. This said it's a wonderful cruise which shouldn't be done in only one sitting... Leaving the boat in Canada for the winter is a bit tricky if you don't want to pay taxes on it... It's OK if there is any work done to the boat (there always is) just make sure you clear it with customs beforehand.
I've done this trip several times and love it every time. If you don't already have a heater on board have one installed; past Matane they don't even sell ice, you put food directly on the hull and it keeps cool!
 
Oct 7, 2008
378
Oday Oday 35 Chesapeake Bay
Wow. Sounds like you will be a great resource once I get closer to embarking on this adventure. I was wondering about the currents off of Quebec. I've watched the canoe races during Carnival. Those ice flows look like they are moving a lot faster than I've seen them move down the Delaware. Do you know if there is a version of Active Captain for Canada?
 
Feb 21, 2010
330
Beneteau 31 016 St-Lawrence river
Active Captain... Just move your cursor to a Canadian area on the chart and there you are. I just refreshed the Garmin bluechart Active Captain application on my iPad and it works fine. Plenty of information, of course as you get lower on the St-Lawrence the anchorages and marinas get scarser.
 
Mar 29, 2011
169
Beneteau 361 Charlotte,Vt
Most Canadian sailors on Lake Champlain leave there boats year round either in Vermont or New York. A great resource to have is the Cruising Guide to the Hudson River, Lake Champlain and the St. Lawrence River. By Alan And Susan Mckibben. You have to buy it either direct from the author or have someone local to Burlington buy one for you. I'm based at Point Bay Marina if you make it up this way.
 
Oct 7, 2008
378
Oday Oday 35 Chesapeake Bay
Thanks for the tip. I'll look for the Cruising Guide. I have family in Burlington, so I'll ask them if they see one around in local bookstores. I'll look you up when I get up that way.
 

dLj

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Mar 23, 2017
3,425
Belliure 41 Sailing back to the Chesapeake
If you are coming into Lake Champlain next summer, look me up. Champlain is lovely to sail, glad to hear you are putting your mast back up. The Chesapeake is also a delightful place to sail.

I also would love to go north and head out into the Maritimes. Once I have enough free time, I'd also really love to head back over to Europe. Not sure what route coming out of the Maritimes to get there is the best. It will be enjoyable to research.

dj
 

pateco

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Aug 12, 2014
2,207
Hunter 31 (1983) Pompano Beach FL
How much draft can you draw and still traverse the Champlain canal?
 
Oct 22, 2014
21,104
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Looks like over head limits are the issue.

Lay the mast down across the deck and Go for it..
Do you need red flags on the ends of the mast?
 

pateco

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Aug 12, 2014
2,207
Hunter 31 (1983) Pompano Beach FL
Wife is researching moving to that area, and I was thinking the boat move from S Florida would be an interesting cruise
 
Oct 22, 2014
21,104
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
That is going to be a tough winter difference from S Florida. No more flipflops and shorts in December.

It wold be an interesting cruise.