Cutting a depth transducer cable

Oct 22, 2014
21,104
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Rob, I had the same type of system. Only mine was monochrome.
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The SiTech monochrome unit is in the top of the stack.

Below is the transducer in her oil bath shooting through the hull.
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Jan 11, 2014
11,429
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
And when we had Loran, a VHF, an analog knot meter, and a flashing depth display we all thought we had all the instruments we needed.......

Yeah, right. :D
 

Blitz

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Jul 10, 2007
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Seidelmann 34 Atlantic Highlands, NJ
I'm guessing that the E22158 is converting only the ST60 wind data from ST1 to STng. The DST800 outputs STng directly to the network (your STng Raymarine network is actually N2K, so you didn't avoid it). Do you get more than a numerical depth value displayed on the e7? Anything graphical?
Yes, exactly. I would need to have a CHIRP to get anything else. My goal was different, just to get the knotmeter on the network to coordinate with the autopilot, etc. CHIRP was considerred but cost was an issue. On the wish list.
 
Nov 16, 2012
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Catalina 310, 2000, #31 31 Santa Cruz
Yes, exactly. I would need to have a CHIRP to get anything else. My goal was different, just to get the knotmeter on the network to coordinate with the autopilot, etc. CHIRP was considerred but cost was an issue. On the wish list.
RM tech support did mention CHIRP as an option for me, but it is pricey. The e7D has sonar capability (not CHIRP, however), so hooking a transducer up to it directly gives me a graphical display (it took me a long time, but I think I finally understand how the RM stuff works and fits together). I’m getting a P79 in-hull transducer this week, so I’ll let you all know how it turns out: both finding a good location, and running the cable.
 
Jul 2, 2018
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McGregor Venture of Newport 23 Tx gulf
I'd advise against cutting the cable, some chirp units are sending data fast. A spliced joint not aligned properly can create echos in the wire.
Most pcb's avoid 90 degree turns on high speed traces for that reason.

Cutting a low end transducer may only change ohm readings on temp sensor enough to be off several degrees
 
Oct 24, 2010
2,405
Hunter 30 Everett, WA
There are several ways to connect a cut cable. The issues with a depth sounder are basically 2. The length of the cable will alter the depth reading. That should not be your issue as you will reconnect the cable without appreciably changing the length. The issue you need to address is maintaining the characteristic impedance and maintain the shielding. This will affect sensitivity. The Characteristic impedance is related to the diameter of the inner conductor and the distance to other conductors including the shield. That space, the type of material in the middle including air (called a dielectric), and the surface area of the wire actually determine the impedance. You want that impedance to be uniform through the length of the wire (within a certain tolerance). The best way to maintain that is to buy purpose-built connectors or that splice box you referred to. It could, in theory, be done with a soldered connection, but it's not easy.

If I were to attempt it, I'd do this: After routing the cable, slide some additional wire shielding (You could get this from an old coax cable) and some heat shrink tubing over the top and out of the way. Then prepare the wire by stripping a minimal amount of insulation from conductors. I'd want to keep solder to a minimum so as to minimize the lump in conductor thickness. I'd then attempt to keep the spacing between conductors as uniform as possible but re-insulate them. (possibly with heat shrink or liquid coating that would cure.) I'd cover the whole thing with the extra shielding and solder it to the original shield on both ends. Be careful to not melt the underlying insulation. Now cover the outside with heat shrink of your choice of moisture-tight covering. If you're careful, you may be successful. Don't try it if you can't do fine solder work to a high standard. This type of splice should work well at acoustic frequencies, but don't try it for RF frequencies.

Ken
 

Sailm8

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Feb 21, 2008
1,746
Hunter 29.5 Punta Gorda
My old ST30 autohelm display was unrepairable. I replaced it with a cheapo ebay depth sounder and had to cut the wire. I had success with buying a 5 wire connector. Works fine.