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A better anchor setup

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  1. David Hopkins

    David Hopkins

    Joined Mar 18, 2014
    12 posts, 8 likes
    Catalina 30
    CA Vancouver
    I'd like some advice on how to improve my anchor setup.

    I have the standard "toy roller" anchor roller. setup Previous owner installed an extension on the port side roller. This extends that roller out a few inches. Unfortunately the extension is flimsy - the metal bends - so the roller does not spin very well. This makes hoisting the anchor difficult. I have a 10 kg Bruce anchor. It fits nicely in the extended roller. It does not fit on the toy roller because the arm reaches too far back (past the anchor locker) and the the anchor hits the bow of the boat. I also have a fortress anchor but it does not sit nicely in the toy roller either because the flukes hit the bow before

    My goal is an inexpensive improvement. I realize I could take the toy roller out and replace with an extended roller but that's bit too involved. I'd like to be able to use the toy roller to hoist the anchor and store it.

    Is there an anchor out there that will rest in the toy roller after being hauled up? I'd like to know what others are doing. Pictures would be awesome.

    I've read some of the C34 forums on this topic. They were somewhat helpful but the dimensions of that boat are somewhat different than the C30.

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  2. freeheelbillie

    freeheelbillie

    Joined Sep 19, 2016
    123 posts, 17 likes
    Catalina 30
    US Mi Port Sanilac
  3. David Hopkins

    David Hopkins

    Joined Mar 18, 2014
    12 posts, 8 likes
    Catalina 30
    CA Vancouver
    Interesting suggestion. I had not heard of that. It may solve the problem of the anchor banging my bow. Unfortunately it does not fix the problem of the arm of the anchor extending too far back. There is very little deck space between the bow and the anchor locker.

    I am contemplating cutting out a piece of my anchor locker door. If I remove the section forward of the hinge my anchor could fit.
     


  4. centerline

    centerline

    Joined Mar 20, 2012
    3,939 posts, 164 likes
    Cal 34-III, MacGregor 25
    US Salem, Oregon
    firstly, there is no such thing as an inexpensive improvement to a bad anchor roller set up... pay the price and get it right the first time so you arent having to do it ever again (like you are doing now to somebody else's cheap and failed attempt)

    preferably, you should be able to stow the bower anchor on its roller.
    some boats may have 2 good anchor rollers on the bow. where both anchors can be stowed on them, but if not, the small roller is only for hoisting the anchor, where it can be lifted over the rail and stowrd away in the locker.
    some boats such as yours (and mine) have a short roller and the main roller.. the short one is for the second anchor, if you use one, to hoist it to the rail so it can be lifted on deck for stowage...

    there is no anchor that is usable for that size of boat that will stow on a short, stubby anchor roller....

    I have a custom roller that stows the bower nicely, and one of the short rollers also, as well as one the stern of our boat... depending on the conditions, the second anchor may be deployed from either the bow or the stern, as needed. it cant stow the anchor, but it sure saves the back when weighing the anchor up to the rail...
     


    Last edited: Feb 18, 2017
  5. centerline

    centerline

    Joined Mar 20, 2012
    3,939 posts, 164 likes
    Cal 34-III, MacGregor 25
    US Salem, Oregon
    maybe its only my opinion, but long term, cutting up the locker doors seems like a much more expensive fix than lengthening the roller...
    and another opinion (its alright, they're free and I got lots of them;))... you should remedy the problem, not the symptom of the problem...
     


  6. Michael Davis

    Michael Davis

    Joined Jan 5, 2017
    163 posts, 23 likes
    Beneteau First 38
    Ca Saturna Island B.C. Lyall Harbour Saturna Island
    You could fix that poor set up by making the extension U shaped. Filling in the bottom would make it much more rigid and you could extend it by a couple of inches too. Do you know a good welder in your area?
     


  7. centerline

    centerline

    Joined Mar 20, 2012
    3,939 posts, 164 likes
    Cal 34-III, MacGregor 25
    US Salem, Oregon
    maybe something like this...
    this is what I built for our 25... I purchased the white part, found the hinge bracket it sets in, and built the rest of it... the custom base unit that attaches to the boat is the also the stem head fitting. it is securely and strongly attached to the boat, so it will support the loading of the anchor from any direction, as well as the lifting load the headstay places on it.
    you can see the headstay is attached in the photo.

    all you would need to do is find a roller that is narrow enough that you could bolt in place of your existing roller, so it would extend where your anchor sits.....
    it would appear that someone has already attempted this on your boat. the base unit seems to be a short anchor roller with the roller removed, and an extension bolted in place....
    have a longer extension made up to take the place of the one that is already there....

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  8. Michael Davis

    Michael Davis

    Joined Jan 5, 2017
    163 posts, 23 likes
    Beneteau First 38
    Ca Saturna Island B.C. Lyall Harbour Saturna Island
    That looks great and looks like it works well too.
     


  9. centerline

    centerline

    Joined Mar 20, 2012
    3,939 posts, 164 likes
    Cal 34-III, MacGregor 25
    US Salem, Oregon
    it works very well. it was designed so that it self deploys.. the anchor rode is handled from the cockpit.
    the anchor can be pinned to lock it to the roller for trailering, or rough weather, but for general boating as long as the rode is cleated, the anchor stays on its roller.
     


  10. LeslieTroyer

    LeslieTroyer

    Joined May 20, 2016
    885 posts, 181 likes
    Catalina 36 MK1
    US Sammamish, WA Everett, WA
    Your rollers look surprisingly like mine - my primary may be slightly beefier holds a Bruce anchor running back to the windlass. I use the short one for running the downhaul/fore-guy for the ATN-Tacker (upside down from the anchor line). I can also use the short one if I need to deploy a second anchor off the bow - which is a fortress (like your danforth) the fortress is kept disassembled in a storage bag - to would take some time to assemble and connect to the chain.

    If you do decide to beef up the rollers - think seriously about adding a small bob-stay to the end so you could fly an asymmetric without worry that you will twist the bracket out of the boat.
    Les
     


  11. Ned Ludd

    Ned Ludd

    Joined Apr 4, 2016
    169 posts, 57 likes
    Newport 28
    US Oregon Richardson Marina
    If you are a handy wood worker "Sailors Sketchbook" has some great anchor handling ideas.
     


  12. Kingjim91

    Kingjim91

    Joined Jul 6, 2013
    86 posts, 1 likes
    Catalina 30TR
    US Milwaukee
    Does anybody have a good anchor set-up for a C-30 TR with a bow sprit?
     


  13. Gene Neill

    Gene Neill

    Joined Sep 30, 2013
    1,924 posts, 444 likes
    Catalina 22, Albin Vega 27
    US central Florida
    I'm not sure how similar our anchor locker covers are, but I did that very thing on my C22. I made a cutout in the forward end of the hatch, and built an epoxy "dam" around the underside of it for strength. I painted it with some leftover Kiwi Grip I had on hand. Although it doesn't look like it in the pic, the hatch now clears the anchor shank and can be opened at any time:

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  14. thinwater

    thinwater

    Joined Mar 26, 2011
    1,529 posts, 143 likes
    PDQ Altair 32/34
    US Deale, MD
    I had a Stiletto 27 for many years and cruised it for weeks at a time. I never had a bow roller and never wanted one. Did want to hang the weight out there. The anchors were puny anyway, and the right place for them was in a locker, farther back.

    No, twin rollers never work right. If you do deploy 2 anchors, with rodes in a locker, goo luck untangling the mess if the boat spins. You really do not want to do this. A better solution, if you use a second anchor, is to have it in a locker with a shortish rode, and then connect the 2 rodes so that only one comes over the roller. Much easier to deal with.

    I think the mistake is trying to emulate bigger boats with different problems.
     



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