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322 keel issues

Discussion in 'Bigger Boats' started by Buzzard Sailor, May 15, 2017. Add this thread to a FAQ

  1. Buzzard Sailor

    Buzzard Sailor

    Joined May 15, 2017
    4 posts, 1 likes
    Oday 322
    US Massachusetts Mattapoisett
    Having read on many occasions, previous threads about the 322 and 302 keel issues, I experienced first hand the problems that could arise. I purchased a 1989 model, one of last few built before Oday went out of business. Let me begin that this design was ahead of the curve and offered many great features that were eventually adopted by most American boat builders. The European influence gave Oday the edge, the management is what failed Oday, not the design.

    Here is what I found, I purchased this boat from a gentlemen in Long Island back in 2015, she had seen very little use most of her life. We had it hauled and surveyed and found no visible issue with the keel joint or keel bolts. I sailed it back to buzzards bay where it has more wind and wave action than long island sound could ever dish out.
    I noticed last year that there was water in the bilge on several occasions. On one occasion, It had actually drained the house battery from the automatic bilge pump cycling on.

    The boatyard hauled the boat, and we found that the keel had separated from the keel sump by almost 1/2". When we examined the joint we found almost no bedding compound. Not sure how this had not leaked before, it seemed very odd. After removing the keel we sounded out the laminate and found a poor layup of glass that had dry delamination from a lack of resin. We ended up grinding almost the entire sump off when finished. The boatyard then began the glass repairs by building an entirely new keel sump and reattaching the keel with flexible bedding compound. The new keel has a thickness well over 3/4" of glass and is much stronger than the original specs.

    On a side note, a local broker who was a former dealer acknowledged that Oday made production decisions that were contrary to the designer, to save a buck. That being said, the keel issues can be fixed by the right fiberglass repair shop. It should not detract anyone from selecting this boat. I once owned a Pearson that had a similar problem, it too was repaired. The pundits will say this is problematic with fin keels. I say it happens when the builder does not pay attention to the design specs. I expect to have many trouble free years sailing what I would consider to be a versatile mid size cruiser. It represents an excellent value compared to newer boat prices and is a simple boat to refit and enjoy for short dollars.
     


    Last edited: May 15, 2017
  2. Captmayhem

    Captmayhem

    Joined Mar 31, 2013
    102 posts, 11 likes
    O'day 23
    US eastern PA Pa
    not trying to probe, but ball park, what does an episode such as this cost to put right?
     


  3. njlarry

    njlarry

    Joined Sep 23, 2009
    1,177 posts, 80 likes
    O'Day 34-At Last
    US Rock Hall, Md
    Thanks for the info. Do you recall the orginal keel stub thickness and was there any wood in it?
     


  4. Buzzard Sailor

    Buzzard Sailor

    Joined May 15, 2017
    4 posts, 1 likes
    Oday 322
    US Massachusetts Mattapoisett
    It cost 4K
     


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  5. Buzzard Sailor

    Buzzard Sailor

    Joined May 15, 2017
    4 posts, 1 likes
    Oday 322
    US Massachusetts Mattapoisett
    Did not find any plywood. Just glass, it was approximately 1/2" at best. It was just a bad layup with poor laminating.
     


  6. Captmayhem

    Captmayhem

    Joined Mar 31, 2013
    102 posts, 11 likes
    O'day 23
    US eastern PA Pa
    that's a good chunk of change. at least you know it's on there for years to come now
     


  7. Golden Road

    Golden Road

    Joined Nov 5, 2010
    87 posts, 0 likes
    Oday 23
    US Stonington, CT
    All said, aging fin keels are a growing problem. Stainless bolts imbedded in lead corrode, with no way to ascertain condition.
     


  8. Jackdaw

    Jackdaw

    Joined Nov 8, 2010
    6,977 posts, 1,049 likes
    Beneteau First 36.7 & 260
    US Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
    That a great deal. Solid piece of mind for less than a full bottom job.
     



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