You Get What You Pay For
- Thread starter fstbttms
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By "previous dive service" I take that to mean that she has already fired them and hired you, I hope--right?
She wasn't confident that they were doing a good job, so she asked me to have a look. So, yes, she is my client now.
I would think the video with reggae music must have sealed the deal. That, and someone who would actually remove the growth from the bottom.She wasn't confident that they were doing a good job, so she asked me to have a look. So, yes, she is my client now.
When we owned sailboats in SW Florida I usually cleaned my own bottom. (No pun intended.) I enjoyed the chance to use scuba equipment and give our hull a good cleaning. It became just another maintenance task. I most often did this chore while anchored in an area with enough water depth and with little boat traffic. However, I remember cleaning the bottom once while in our slip and doing a centerboard cable replacement there also.
As I look back at those activities I realize that I never appreciated the danger in that task. About a year and a half ago I heard from friends in Cape Coral that a diver died (reportedly from stray current) while cleaning the bottom of a vessel. A word of caution and a question to fstbttms and any other diver or swimmer who enters the water in a marina setting. Is there a way to check for stray current before entering the water?
As I look back at those activities I realize that I never appreciated the danger in that task. About a year and a half ago I heard from friends in Cape Coral that a diver died (reportedly from stray current) while cleaning the bottom of a vessel. A word of caution and a question to fstbttms and any other diver or swimmer who enters the water in a marina setting. Is there a way to check for stray current before entering the water?
Maybe his goggles were foggy.
An obviously fresh bottom job, done poorly.
I can understand a few little missed spots of algea, but that is ridiculous.
The through hulls not cleared are grounds for a berating, in addition to firing. Also the rudder strut, and the prop being addressed with a cursory wipe means he didn't inspect the cutlass for fishing line etc.
An obviously fresh bottom job, done poorly.
I can understand a few little missed spots of algea, but that is ridiculous.
The through hulls not cleared are grounds for a berating, in addition to firing. Also the rudder strut, and the prop being addressed with a cursory wipe means he didn't inspect the cutlass for fishing line etc.
Never heard of a "stray current". Prop wash? How did a stay current kill a driver in a marina?
I've swam in lots of marinas in florida from Key West to Apalachicola. Never experienced anything like that.
-Will (Dragonfly)
As I understand it, electric shock is more common in fresh water. Lake of the Ozarks required all docks have lights because of boat accidents at night. The regulation did not require a licensed electrician to install it so it was every man for himself rigging them up. Ironically, the lake is owned by the power company. https://fox4kc.com/2017/04/03/mothe...ming-in-lake-of-the-ozarks-calls-for-changes/
Indeed. Although I wonder if @31seahorse ever got confirmation that stray current was the problem in this case. I've heard of that being a problem in fresh water, but in salt water even Boat US says it shouldn't really be an issue. See https://www.boatus.com/seaworthy/magazine/2013/july/electric-shock-drowning-explained.asp
There was a discussion of this issue on SBO not that long ago during a marina etiquette thread. https://forums.sailboatowners.com/index.php?goto/post&id=1451934#post-1451934
I asked the same question about salt versus fresh water.
-Will (Dragonfly)
I asked the same question about salt versus fresh water.
-Will (Dragonfly)
Will, I would have definitely been in agreement with you. But reading the article here's how they explained it:
"Why fresh water and not salt? Salt-water is anywhere from 50 to 1,000 times more conductive than fresh water. The conductivity of the human body when wet lies between the two, but is much closer to saltwater than fresh. In saltwater, the human body only slows electricity down, so most of it will go around a swimmer on its way back to ground unless the swimmer grabs hold of something — like a propeller or a swim ladder — that's electrified. In fresh water, the current gets "stuck" trying to return to its source and generates voltage gradients that will take a shortcut through the human body. A voltage gradient of just 2 volts AC per foot in fresh water can deliver sufficient current to kill a swimmer who bridges it."
For what it's worth, that's what they said about this
Is this when I say, "I swim corrected?"
I know there are many marinas (in both fresh water and salt water) that have signs prohibiting swimming in the marina. Of course boat traffic is an obvious concern, but I thought electricity was also a concern near the wired docks. I remember the previous SBO discussion, and I remember the death of the diver I referenced. He was diving in salt water. My concern was for fstbttms, the person who posted the video in this thread. If I spoke without proper knowledge, I swim corrected.
I know there are many marinas (in both fresh water and salt water) that have signs prohibiting swimming in the marina. Of course boat traffic is an obvious concern, but I thought electricity was also a concern near the wired docks. I remember the previous SBO discussion, and I remember the death of the diver I referenced. He was diving in salt water. My concern was for fstbttms, the person who posted the video in this thread. If I spoke without proper knowledge, I swim corrected.
not a pleasant topic: lots of advice available on boatUS about how to check for faulty wiring at your marina. Boat Talk: How faulty wiring at marinas can be silent, swift killer ...
https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/.../boat_talk_faulty_wiring_at_doc.htm Aug 1, 2013 - Electric shock drowning can occur at wired marinas and docks where faulty wiring or other issues cause electrical currents to leak into the water ...
https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/.../boat_talk_faulty_wiring_at_doc.htm Aug 1, 2013 - Electric shock drowning can occur at wired marinas and docks where faulty wiring or other issues cause electrical currents to leak into the water ...
I was a dockmaster at a salt water marina, and we had signs posted prohibiting swimming in the marina, with an explanation about the dangers of stray current. I stayed late in the office one day, and saw kids jumping off the bow of a boat and swimming back to the dock. I walked down to the boat, and explained to the owner that the kids couldn't swim in the marina. He gave me a hard time, and said that was only for business hours. I told him the rule was 24/7, and I was surprised he had so little regard for the safety of his grandchildren.