Above Deck Rode Storage

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GorillaToast

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Being an optimist, sometimes I don't see the negatives of my brilliant ideas right away - usually not until a problem occurs.

I don't want to install a chain pipe and store my anchor rode below, so I came up with this idea for above deck rode storage. There are four 3/4" holes in the bottom for drainage and a snap on lid.

Ok eveybody, jump on it. What's the obvious problems I'm missing here?
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whatfiero

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Oct 30, 2011
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klidescope 30t norfolk
A bucket

That there is one fine looking bucket If it works you could wrap it in canvas to take away the bucket look or get rid of the stickers
 
justsomeguy

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How is it affixed?

I decided to move my anchor to the bilge or the pushpit, because it was getting in the way of my spinnaker during gybes. I wonder if you ever fly a spin, will you have the same problem with the bucket, too?
 
Ross

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Those plastic buckets are good for two or three years and then they become brittle and break up like a clear plastic cup. I would secure it with a lashing that completely wraps the bucket. Getting it lower would be better. If you have a palm and needle you could sew together a canvas bucket made with polyester canvas. with a steel hoop in the top and bottom.
 
sailaway78

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May 11, 2005
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Have to ask

How strong is it, and will it hold all the rode. I have about 300' of 5/8, and would never make it into one bucket.
 
GorillaToast

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whatfiero said:
That there is one fine looking bucket If it works you could wrap it in canvas to take away the bucket look or get rid of the stickers
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I already got rid of the all the stickers except that one. It is a warning that the bucket is a drowning hazard for kids.
 
GorillaToast

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justsomeguy said:
How is it affixed?

I decided to move my anchor to the bilge or the pushpit, because it was getting in the way of my spinnaker during gybes. I wonder if you ever fly a spin, will you have the same problem with the bucket, too?
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I don't have a spinakker; doubt if I will for this boat. But, if I do, I'll get rid of the bucket.
 
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navigator97

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May 24, 2004
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If it is an all chain rode, I would be concerned about the weight there and the lever action on that off center weight. I would also be concerned about moderate to heavy seas slamming on to it.
 
GorillaToast

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Ross said:
Those plastic buckets are good for two or three years and then they become brittle and break up like a clear plastic cup. I would secure it with a lashing that completely wraps the bucket. Getting it lower would be better.
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I like the idea of the lashing, expecially if I could get my hands on some hemp for cheap. That would look real "sailorly".

Ross said:
If you have a palm and needle you could sew together a canvas bucket made with polyester canvas. with a steel hoop in the top and bottom.
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I do have a palm and needle, and made a canvas ditty bag last year to hold all my sewing supplies. But that was a tedious chore I don't want to repeat.

I could always just buy a heavy-duty mesh bag and lash it to the pulpit, but I like to do things on the cheap when I can. I had an old delta-shaped tv mount and some plastic rail fittings. One part is on the rail, the mating part is bolted to the bucket with fender washers and nylocks.

I could get it lower if I buy a s/s tube and 2 rail fittings and run it across the open space in the pulpit, but then were talking $$.
 
GorillaToast

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Nice N Easy said:
How strong is it, and will it hold all the rode. I have about 300' of 5/8, and would never make it into one bucket.
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I've got 100' of rode, and it about half fills the bucket. In the lake where I sail, we're not allowed to anchor out in the middle, so I'd never be anchoring in any more than 20'.

It's just a little less thick walled than one of those hardware store 5gal buckets. Good part is when it breaks, I've got an endless supply of them - at least until the cat stop using litter.
 
GorillaToast

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navigator97 said:
If it is an all chain rode, I would be concerned about the weight there and the lever action on that off center weight. I would also be concerned about moderate to heavy seas slamming on to it.
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Just 6' of chain, and 3/8" rope.

The little pond I sail in doesn't have "seas". Just 1-2ft wavelets.
 
Bad Obsession

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Be careful that you don't kick the bucket when anchoring......Ok...Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Be sure to keep your sheets from hanging into it when you are sailing wing and wing. If you can stand the looks of it and it works then it can't be that bad. I have to add that you used strong material and created a canvas bag to hold this it may look and work better. Something with a cover to keep your rode out of the sunlight when not in use.
 
Don12364

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Dec 2, 2003
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Why not?
Neat idea which compliments the equally neat way of retaining the Danforth anchor.
A canvas bag will keep the UV off as well as improving the appearance.
While you are at it the canvas bag top could act as a hinge cum retainer for the lid so it will not go over the side when bucket is open.
Try it inside and out to see which is best.
It may need a stay to prevent the whole lot swivelling round the top pulpit bar, or alternatively, move it forwards or aft so the vertical tube acts as a stabilizer. Use SS saddle type pipe fittings and bolt right through the plastic with penny washers inside.
Clearly an inexpensive solution for a short rode and cheap to replace if it breaks up or has some other accident.
Something new at last.
Congrats.
 
Bad Obsession

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One other thing....You want to design this so it is lower and closer to the deck. That will be easier on your pulpit. The other thought is that what would happen if you bury your bow into a large wave? Will the bucket rip off of the pulpit and cause issues?

An alternate idea is a canvas bag to store the rode. Then take it back and store it when not in use. The very old Catalina 27s were like this. I had an uncle that owned a 1973 Catalina 27 and he did just this thing.

It would be really bad to be out in some weather and have that bucket come off and your rode wash over. Even worse if it was tied to the deck to keep from loosing it because that could cause a HUGE mess.
 
GorillaToast

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It seems the words "canvas bag" show up in posts more than anything, so I'll go back to what I did last year - set a canvas bag on the deck and lash it to the vertical rail.

I used a grocery store canvas bag and it lasted about 3/4 of the season. At $2 apiece, no big deal to replace.

Thanks to all for your helpful input.
 
thinwater

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Mar 26, 2011
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Assuming you stay on a small lake, OK. Otherwise....

No, I don't get it. What happens when a thunderstorm comes up and you start taking massive green water over the bow? Perhaps a large wake from an express cruiser or frieghter. The bucket tears off, the rode goes in the water and possibly fouls the prop. The anchor bites where you didn't want it to, or simply makes the boat uncontrollable.

But if the water is always flat, looks handy.
 
Sumner

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I'd try it and see if you like it.

We started with soft sided cooler bags, but now use....



...the ones with the liner inside and love them. They are lashed to the pulpit and lifeline.

I can just stuff the rode into them as fast as I pull us to the anchor or Ruth motors us there and you don't have to coil it or anything, just stuff it in there. The hard lids and sides keep the bag open. The rode comes out and has never tangled on well over 100 anchorages the last couple years.

I like the fact that the bags are down next to me and easy to stuff and they cost less than $20. The hold 200 feet of 3/8 or 7/16 three twist nylon and 30 feet of chain.

More about them here...

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor2/rigging-20.html

Also by marking the rode every 25 feet with first 1 piece of electrical tape and then 2 at 50 and 3 at 75 and 4 at 100, then starting again I can let the rode go out as fast as we back down and know how much is out there. Easy to see the....



.... tape markers as the rode goes out.

If what you have done doesn't work consider trying this. We are using a larger version of it on the Endeavour,

Sum

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