• Sailing is all about the Weather.

    Big into the exploration of Atlantic Hurricanes since Katrina came uninvited into his world, James (Jim) Gurley (JamesG161) has followed every Tropical Storm birthed in Atlantic, Gulf and Caribbean waters since. Being a boater, he knows that we often need more time to prepare than we get from the TV weather folk. Jim relies on the science of storm development to share early warning info with friends and fellow boaters.

    Early in 2018, Jim and John Shepard, (JSSailem) started to chat about the weather data available. John asked Jim to help forecast Pacific NW storms, and this morphed into discussions on weather forecasting.

    For John, sailing in the PNW is sometimes hit and miss. One day is ugly, then a string of beautiful days but no wind, followed by a series of blue-sky days and 12 knot breezes. Being ready for those great sailing days means you need to look to the Pacific Ocean and what is brewing. John has been into Pacific NW Weather since the 1970’s when his first PNW November storm hit bringing more than 40 days and 40 nights of continual rain.

    Together we want to share information, new APPs, safety, and thoughts about letting the weather help you. Identify some of the resources for sailors and help prepare you for your next sailboat outing.

    It is far better to go out on the water knowing what to expect in weather terms, than to be out on the water and see dark ominous clouds suddenly appear, unprepared.

Winter Weather forecasted for PacificNW

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
22,092
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Since returning to the PacificNW from my New England LeafPeeping experience, I have been prepping for what my fellow weather sailor JamesG calls the "WET—COLD—SNOWY 2024/25 Winter."

Using WINDY to examine the Northern Pacific, the storm patterns do not look good.
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Strong winds from the SW draw warm, moist air out of the central Pacific onshore, causing TV weather forecasters to use the phrase "Pineapple Express."

The next few weeks will bring rain and snow to excite the skier's dreams.
If you have not winterized your boat, your time is running out.

Here is what my friend and farm weather guru Rufus says about the coming storms...

Monday November 15
Where do we start? Wow, lots of impactful weather about to hit the PNW and California. Extra-size your morning beverage, this will take some time to absorb. It is important. Ready?
Probably best to break this monster forecast into 2 Parts, as each piece could have ramifications on life & property, depending on your location. (Remember Patron, our forecast discussions cover BC, WA, OR, CA and ID, so while your specific area may not have a serious impact, another area in our region very well could.) Enough said.
PART ONE
—> Biggest adjustment since our Saturday Special Statement is that the heaviest rainfall, and thus risk for MAJOR flooding, has been shifted, by the models, farther south into Northern CA, generally north of the Bay area up into the southern margin of OR. That’s NOT to say the rest of the region will escape lots of rain and localized flooding of small creeks and urban area (leaf blockage of storm drains).
Kuril Islands Storm - This system is continuing to develop, with the potential for center Low pressure to rapidly fall (hence the term ‘bomb cyclone' used by some) to 941-950 mb by the time it is a few hundred miles west of Vancouver Island. That is equivalent to a major hurricane. WINDS will be strong from the EAST, as the storm approaches, but it will NOT make landfall (thank goodness the High pressure Dome will block further westward movement). Interestingly, the actual Low will rotate offshore and spin farther West before returning as a weak Low to northern CA a week from now.
WINDS. Strong winds along the west coast from Bay area north to BC; inland S winds could gust to 40 mph. It could be the powerful EAST winds, pushing out from that formerly Yukon Dome as it settles to our east, that could have impact. The Gaps - Fraser & Columbia Gorge - will be very windy. Even Cascade passes will be very windy. Also, as the S wind clashes with the E wind along the western edge of the Cascades, winds will be intense. Falling trees possible given saturated soils. Power outages, too.
RAIN. As noted above, inches of precip is likely for all locations west of the mountains between late Tue and Saturday. Northern CA could have MAJOR ISSUES with flooding, as models indicated 7”-9” in the period. To quote Behringer, Nat’l Wx Service, San Francsico, “getting caught up on whether a storm is a ‘bomb cyclone’ or not does not effectively communicate the associated impacts on life and property”. OR & WA may have dodged the high risk of major flooding this time. Generally, rain should let up a bit on Fri, except for northern CA. The weekend is trending damp on Saturday, turning cooler & drier on Sunday.
COASTAL EROSION. Beach communities will experience lots of high wave action and beach erosion. Patrons in these locations must remain alert.
PART TWO
Thanksgiving Week is trending drier but NOTABLY COLDER. Yukon Domes will continue to have influence on PNW wx conditions, as a
’second’ Dome moves SE out of Canada. The air will dry beginning Sunday, and an East wind will pick up. Indications are that by Tue, wind will rush down the Fraser Gap (not severe!), cooling the Puget Sound region. Not so much out of the Columbia yet. A weak system from the west could bring rain onshore overnight Tue. Will it be cold enough for rain/snow mixed at the surface? We’ll see. Anyway, on Wednesday, showers will begin to diminish late day, and the Fraser Gap winds will return - this time building into a major wind event for the northern portion of the Puget Sound. Rain continues over western OR overnight Wed into Thanksgiving Day.
Thanksgiving. Moderate rain all day in OR, heavy rain all day in CA, and turning COLDER in the Puget Sound area, with the Fraser Gap wind howling. In fact, Patrons around Lynden, etc should prep for potentially damaging winds & possible power outages overnight Thanksgiving into Black Friday. We’ll update this, of course.
Modified Arctic Outbreak is possible beginning on Black Friday. It could be a White Friday for some, esp in the eastern basins. We are not forecasting a super cold air mass, as it’s a little early in the season, but one that definitely could freeze up ‘at risk’ irrigation systems, etc. Coldest wx yet this fall. This will also lead to major wx action over the Rocky Mtn states and northern plains.
Strong east winds out of the Columbia Gorge Sunday Dec 1st. Another very WET week will follow Thanksgiving Weekend. This time we may NOT dodge the flood-bullet. More on that in the next report.
Bottom line: the blocking High pressure ridge inland is literally saving the PNW from an extremely dangerous wind event. Potential barometric pressures - in what we have coined the “Kuril Islands Storm” - are way below that of the Columbus Day storm in 1962. While the storm will not get too close to our coasts, it will have impact, so please heed all the watches and warnings issued by the Nat’l Wx Service.
-Rufus
 
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Apr 12, 2007
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Hunter 420 Herrington Harbor South
Can we get one of these for the mid Atlantic? Like Chesapeake Bay area. The best I came up with was mild until last week of Dec. then our first week of below freezing temps.
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
22,092
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Let me take a look at this idea.
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
22,092
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
It might be a to windward bashing and high speed return once filled with turkey.
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
22,092
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Check out the Juan d’Fuca wind forecast for Wednesday the 27th. Shades of SF Bay without the shelter of the Golden Gate headlands.
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jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
22,092
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Jim wants to share with me.
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
22,092
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
We last saw Low-pressure numbers like this storm's in October 1962. It is known in Canada as Typhoon Freda, and in OREGON, it is commonly called the Columbus Day Storm.
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
22,092
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
I'm just hopeful all our trees will stay standing.
 
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jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
22,092
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Follow-up
Storm wind field came ashore in BC. Vancouver Island weather reports wind speeds of 100mph. Storms pressure was reported down to 942 millibars. 30+% of the island had power lost.

Seattle also felt the storm 40% of King County is with out power this AM.

Hope all you Puget Sound sailors are ok.

I have heard from several. Everett Marina appears to have been spared. Report on my dock is that nothing is out of place. Many of the dinghies that are tied up need to be pumped out but the dock power is ok.

SV Hadley survived without incident. That drive up to the boat 2 weeks ago, to prep for winter, appears to have been successful.
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
22,092
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
It does not look like the weather conditions are over for the PacificNW.

The low that swept ashore on Wednesday is off the coast and a new cell is spinning up from the SW. This graphic shows the two storms feeding each other. Friday we may again feel the wrath of Mother Nature.

https://x.com/RyanMaue/status/1859422416583151794/photo/1
 
Nov 21, 2012
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Yamaha 33 Port Ludlow, WA
Dang. We're heading to PL today with a stop in White Salmon tonight. Gonna be a messy drive. The Blue Mountains are a treat all winter long.
 
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SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
22,092
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Good news. A calm has returned. The second low stayed off shore and the two cells dissipated. A size able Pacific High is moving in over the region. The possibility of cold East winds out of the Fraser Gap and the Columbia are not expected to materialize as the weather cells move eastward out over the plains. The Arctic jet stream is helping move the storm cells out. Of note if you’re heading East early this week your flight time maybe reduced by these upper level winds.
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Nice weather for the next 6-7 days is forecast. Maybe a Thanksgiving sail in the Puget Sound can be had.

Here are the details about the coming days by Rufus.


Friday November 22
Around the PNW, lots of clean-up and power restoration in progress after the big storm this week. What weather-card does the end of November hold? Let’s take a look.
First of all, blustery & damp today, as the last in the current series of strong storms spins north a few hundreds miles offshore. The atmosphere will ‘calm down’ throughout the weekend, with occasional showers and gradually cooling temperatures - a calming atmosphere, if you will, has we enter the first big holiday week of the season. An east wind will blow down the Fraser Gap, but nothing of significance, other than a chill factor.
A stable, cool air mass will reside over the PNW next week. Morning fog possible in the usual locations; frost probable, if the sky clears in your location, esp in the higher elevations & east of the Cascades. Good news is that there is NO LONGER the chance for powerful east wind outflow from the Fraser Gap or Columbia Gorge during the holiday. Models now keep the atmosphere rather tranquil for late November. Most of the ‘winter wx’ will be in play across the plains and eastern half of the nation. Generally DRY for the extended Thanksgiving holiday, excluding the last day.
The next chance for rain around the PNW is charting for Sunday, the 1st day of December. Rain will advance north-to-south, covering nearly all of the PNW (including northern CA) by the afternoon. Nothing heavy, no wind event - just a calm, cool rain.
Mon through Fri, Dec 2-6. Rain will let up late Mon in most locations, before starting back up again on Tue. A stronger system will dump lots of precipitation over Vancouver Island & the northern 2/3 of western WA Tue through Wed. A couple inches possible, with most of OR only getting a small ‘clip’ of rain from that 2 day pattern. Models continue heavy rainfall over northern Vancouver Island for the balance of the week, as the train of moisture lifts a bit farther north, compared to Mon/Tue. Showers possible for the Puget Sound, but dry elsewhere around the region.
The weekend of Dec 7,8 is trending DRY & rather mild for early December.
That’s the way is charts for now. Upper-level pattern looks to have shifted away from any cold outbreaks in early December. Let’s see if that holds. Change is always expected.
“People with tact have less to retract."
-Rufus
 
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